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JS + BRZ 06-05-2015 12:46 PM

Staggered set up at the track
 
What would happen if we have a staggered wheel set up at the track? Just curious, that's all. :D

tahdizzle 06-05-2015 12:48 PM

I am not an expert, but wouldn't a staggered set up induce understeer?

DarkSunrise 06-05-2015 12:55 PM

You won't be able to rotate your tires, that's what will happen :P

And more understeer.

JS + BRZ 06-05-2015 01:02 PM

Interesting.. Why do cars like S2K come as a staggered set up from the factory?

86_Insider 06-05-2015 01:05 PM

Every car is designed differently and if you have ever driven an s2k you would instantly know why they do. Even with the staggered setup they are very tail happy. I wouldn't suggest a staggered setup on a car that doesn't come that way from the factory unless some serious modification and power upgrades have been done. Even then it would just come down to testing

JS + BRZ 06-05-2015 01:07 PM

Which is more tail happy, staggered or squared?

All the s2k guys I've seen at the track are running squared set up. That's why I was curious about this. haha

gramicci101 06-05-2015 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ (Post 2276022)
Which is more tail happy, staggered or squared?

All the s2k guys I've seen at the track are running squared set up. That's why I was curious about this. haha

For us, a square setup will be more tail happy, because there's less traction in the back vs. a staggered setup. Having the right springs on it will make it even more tail happy though.

OkieSnuffBox 06-05-2015 01:15 PM

Factories build in understeer to protect the unwashed masses.


For example, in 1995 the M3 came with a square setup, then in 96 switched it to staggered to make the car less tail happy.

King Tut 06-05-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ (Post 2276022)
All the s2k guys I've seen at the track are running squared set up. That's why I was curious about this. haha

They also either run a rear wing or a big ass front sway bar to keep the oversteer in check.

CSG Mike 06-05-2015 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ (Post 2276022)
Which is more tail happy, staggered or squared?

All the s2k guys I've seen at the track are running squared set up. That's why I was curious about this. haha

Correlation =/= causation.

Have you ever asked *why* they run square?

JS + BRZ 06-05-2015 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 2276077)
They also either run a rear wing or a big ass front sway bar to keep the oversteer in check.

You are right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2276104)
Correlation =/= causation.

Have you ever asked *why* they run square?

Everyone just said it's for more balanced handling. But it just popped up in my head this morning and wanted to ask. haha

CSG Mike 06-07-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ (Post 2276126)
Everyone just said it's for more balanced handling. But it just popped up in my head this morning and wanted to ask. haha

Wut?

It's not for more balanced handing... adding front tire to a rear happy car? :bellyroll:

JS + BRZ 06-07-2015 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2277702)
Wut?

It's not for more balanced handing... adding front tire to a rear happy car? :bellyroll:

Can you enlighten us why they are doing it? Thanks.

FRSfan111 06-07-2015 02:52 AM

CSG talk about s2ks? Pft mikes never even been in one...
Lol


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