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chanomatik 02-12-2013 01:28 PM

I'm looking for the GT-86 black leather, red-center seat covers. I see they were referenced in OP, but I must have missed any link to where they can be purchased?

I already have the knee pads and door panels from the GT-86 on the way. Looking to get the steering wheel, e-brake and shift knob. Also the rear seats center leather cover is nice.

From the base GT-86 there are black parts that I might try my darnedest to paint-match red, like the door handle cover (typically silver), door levers (typically chrome), circular vents (typically silver), and center console trims. The GT-86 Limited seats would be the final interior touch.

Then an FR-S front bumper would be all I needed exterior-wise.

Chaetagnath 02-12-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1010110 (Post 729721)
You don't have to remove anything to install these. They are just covers. I installed them last night and it was very easy to do.


Wow those look really nice. Are there back seat covers too?

1010110 02-12-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaetagnath (Post 729736)
Wow those look really nice. Are there back seat covers too?

I wasn't able to find any matching rear seat covers.

Saber_TRD 02-12-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chanomatik (Post 729733)
I'm looking for the GT-86 black leather, red-center seat covers. I see they were referenced in OP, but I must have missed any link to where they can be purchased?

I already have the knee pads and door panels from the GT-86 on the way. Looking to get the steering wheel, e-brake and shift knob. Also the rear seats center leather cover is nice.

From the base GT-86 there are black parts that I might try my darnedest to paint-match red, like the door handle cover (typically silver), door levers (typically chrome), circular vents (typically silver), and center console trims. The GT-86 Limited seats would be the final interior touch.

Then an FR-S front bumper would be all I needed exterior-wise.

Those red-center seat covers are actually full seats, not covers. They're leather and alcantara, they are the heated seats I referred to. When I was looking for the parts I never did find someone selling those seats.

Someone was selling the steering wheel, e-brake, and shift knob in this forums marketplace section. Not sure if he's still there though.

Would like to see pics when you get the conversion done.


Edit: I see other talk about the rear seats, if you meant those, they're not heated lol I don't think there's a cover for those either.

chanomatik 02-12-2013 01:47 PM

Man, I was REALLY hoping you weren't going to say they were the full seats. I was being hopeful, though I suspected they were the same as the BRZ Limited seats. For $3k you can get a pair of GT-86 TRD seats:

http://japanparts.com/images/ImageFr...ase=1&no=43939

I can't imagine swapping to GT-86 Limited seats would be that much cheaper.

I've also contemplated have the Alcantara replaced with red Alcantara in my BRZ. Seems cheaper to just un-thread, cut the fabric to size and re-thread. Voila! Red-center Alcantara and dark leather seats! Sounds like an okay idea?

And I'll definitely share pics of my GT-86 parts. They JUST shipped today. I just got the notice from nigel-jdmparts.com. I think red handles (outter) and black handles (inner design) are next. You can order the black parts from your local Toyota dealer.

Saber_TRD 02-12-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chanomatik (Post 729773)
Man, I was REALLY hoping you weren't going to say they were the full seats. I was being hopeful, though I suspected they were the same as the BRZ Limited seats. For $3k you can get a pair of GT-86 TRD seats:

http://japanparts.com/images/ImageFr...ase=1&no=43939

I can't imagine swapping to GT-86 Limited seats would be that much cheaper.

I've also contemplated have the Alcantara replaced with red Alcantara in my BRZ. Seems cheaper to just un-thread, cut the fabric to size and re-thread. Voila! Red-center Alcantara and dark leather seats! Sounds like an okay idea?

And I'll definitely share pics of my GT-86 parts. They JUST shipped today. I just got the notice from nigel-jdmparts.com. I think red handles (outter) and black handles (inner design) are next. You can order the black parts from your local Toyota dealer.

There was a shop, again on this forum, who speculated the seats would be around 2-2.5k each. I didn't see them ever put the seats up as available to be ordered though. I believe it was nigel who I saw had the other parts you mentioned. Think he mentioned the seats too, I could be wrong though, it was a while ago.

You might get away with the un-thread and replace, although I don't know enough about that process or the materials (alcantara) to know how workable that is. I suppose if you got a good upholster it should be fine. :iono:

chanomatik 02-12-2013 02:03 PM

Yeah, Nigel's been a lot of help. His site just sells seat covers. http://www.nigel-jdmparts.com/japan-...her-seat-cover

There are some good upholsterers up here, so I'll probably go that route. Now to find some red Alcantara...

DanoFA20 02-12-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saber_TRD (Post 729644)
They actually don't add much weight, the Toyota at most is only 60lbs more:
1,190–1,298 kg (2,624–2,862 lb) (Toyota 86)
1,251–1,273 kg (2,758–2,806 lb) (Scion FR-S)

It's really not a big deal. Remember also, Toyota designed and tested the car as the Limited.

We didn't just miss out on accessories though, we lost out on better brakes, the under car covers which reduce the coefficient of drag. I don't remember where the post was but someone had posted it makes a notable difference in fuel mileage and times. Not to mention the creature comforts, such as heated seats and dual climate control comes in very handy when you live where I do and see -40 multiple times a year.

Glad you found the post informative though.



As chanomatik said, yes, it's the closest thing we have to the JDM GT86 Limited. It's still a ways off though. It's missing the knee pads, the seat options as chanomatik mentioned, the under car covers as I mentioned above, the brake upgrade option, a few nick nacks here and there. The biggest difference is the suspension. The BRZ was tuned to understeer more where the Toyota was tuned to neutral. BRZ has a couple extra speakers too if I recall.

oh damn really? interesting i am kinda sad about the knee pads and nder panels me personally dont need dual climate but -40 i can understand plus heated seats o.O i like fabric myself. yes i find this very helpful again thank you for making this! :thanks::thanks::respekt:

idreamofdrifting 02-12-2013 03:40 PM

call me conservative but imo my time and money is just too precious to exhort too much effort to do any of it. i suppose all of it has been well spent on my AE86 that, when i bought the fr-s, i just want a car thats a done deal. again this is my own opinion about this. the most ill probably do to my fr-s would be to buy the trd kit. otherwise it will stay bone scion stock. good day gentlemen.

:clap:

Saber_TRD 02-12-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by idreamofdrifting (Post 730090)
call me conservative but imo my time and money is just too precious to exhort too much effort to do any of it. i suppose all of it has been well spent on my AE86 that, when i bought the fr-s, i just want a car thats a done deal. again this is my own opinion about this. the most ill probably do to my fr-s would be to buy the trd kit. otherwise it will stay bone scion stock. good day gentlemen.

:clap:

That's pretty much what we wanted. The Scion is a stripped down version of the Toyota, incomplete, missing parts. We want the complete car, the done deal. Not the incomplete Scion.

These are not aftermarket parts, they are from factory, they are stock. We shouldn't have to be putting any effort into this other than signing the paper and handing over the money. Toyota decided to give us the finger though.

Also, this is a list of the parts for those who wanted to do a conversion, since it wasn't released here. It's not an opinion thread. It's meant to help others find what they need to get the conversion done.

idreamofdrifting 02-12-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saber_TRD (Post 730123)
That's pretty much what we wanted. The Scion is a stripped down version of the Toyota, incomplete, missing parts. We want the complete car, the done deal. Not the incomplete Scion.

These are not aftermarket parts, they are from factory, they are stock. We shouldn't have to be putting any effort into this other than signing the paper and handing over the money. Toyota decided to give us the finger though.

Also, this is a list of the parts for those who wanted to do a conversion, since it wasn't released here. It's not an opinion thread. It's meant to help others find what they need to get the conversion done.

Point well taken, but nevertheless I stand by my opinion. You are more than welcome to move or delete my posts. Cheers.

dreamerl007 02-12-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saber_TRD (Post 729644)


As chanomatik said, yes, it's the closest thing we have to the JDM GT86 Limited. It's still a ways off though. It's missing the knee pads, the seat options as chanomatik mentioned, the under car covers as I mentioned above, the brake upgrade option, a few nick nacks here and there. The biggest difference is the suspension. The BRZ was tuned to understeer more where the Toyota was tuned to neutral. BRZ has a couple extra speakers too if I recall.

Thanks Saber, this thread is the most complete I've seen on the subject. I guess maybe I should ask the same question a little differently, If I wanted the JDM GT86 Limited, would it be 'easier' to start from the BRZ Limited as opposed to the FR-S? I suppose easier is a relative term, but I'd imagine a lot of the interior parts on the BRZ match up with the GT86 limited more than the FR-S Does, and would seem to be the more direct approach for this kind of undertaking. Just looking for some thoughts on the matter.

chanomatik 02-12-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamerl007 (Post 730450)
Thanks Saber, this thread is the most complete I've seen on the subject. I guess maybe I should ask the same question a little differently, If I wanted the JDM GT86 Limited, would it be 'easier' to start from the BRZ Limited as opposed to the FR-S? I suppose easier is a relative term, but I'd imagine a lot of the interior parts on the BRZ match up with the GT86 limited more than the FR-S Does, and would seem to be the more direct approach for this kind of undertaking. Just looking for some thoughts on the matter.

I'll tell you that I got the BRZ Limited because of the following items:

- Push button start
- Seat warmers
- Side mirror warmers
- Puddle lights
- Dual climate control
- Leather/Alcantara
- Red digital color for time and such as opposed to orange on Premium BRZ or FR-S

To me, it seems easier to source an FR-S front bumper and badge, then rear FR-S badging and BAM! Got yourself an FR-S with much nicer-looking BRZ headlights. Ultimately I want my BRZ to resemble a GT-86 just for giggles. I highly doubt I'll ever pay $3k for the GT-86 headlights, though. I don't even like them.

Saber_TRD 02-13-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamerl007 (Post 730450)
Thanks Saber, this thread is the most complete I've seen on the subject. I guess maybe I should ask the same question a little differently, If I wanted the JDM GT86 Limited, would it be 'easier' to start from the BRZ Limited as opposed to the FR-S? I suppose easier is a relative term, but I'd imagine a lot of the interior parts on the BRZ match up with the GT86 limited more than the FR-S Does, and would seem to be the more direct approach for this kind of undertaking. Just looking for some thoughts on the matter.

I'm glad it's been informative.

You're right, "easy" is a relative term. I suppose it depends on how much you want to spend and what work you're willing to do and how much of a conversion you want to do.

A lot of the FR-S to 86 conversion parts will be needed for the BRZ, such as the headlights. You might be able to get more for the BRZ headlights if you sell them than you would the FR-S lights. So that's a consideration for things.

The main differences between the FR-S to 86 conversion and a BRZ to 86 conversion would be that a lot of the interior stuff is already there on the BRZ. However, you have bigger exterior stuff. Like the front bumper, either way you'd need fog lights for FR-S or BRZ (86 are a different housing at the very least than the BRZ's). If you're picky about the suspension, as I am, then you'd be looking at swapping out a suspension. I don't know how much of it is different though, to get that understeer Suby wanted. So you could be changing everything to maybe only a couple parts.

I guess it comes down to if you want to do more mechanical or electrical work. The FR-S will have more electrical and the BRZ will have more mechanical, and with that front bumper maybe paint and colour matching or full paint job if you want Hot Lava, since it's a Toyota/Scion only colour.

I haven't seen all the parts necessary for a full blown conversion yet, so I couldn't even guess on price. I was easily over 10k when I was looking at parts to do the conversion and I hadn't seen the dual climate controls, push start, smart entry system, or the leather/alcantara heated seats on the market yet, from 3rd party vendors. I didn't look into a BRZ conversion since the only Suby dealership in my area has been to court over so many fraud cases it's not even funny. So I don't know about the costs or all the unique parts necessary for that conversion.

Sarlacc 02-14-2013 03:48 PM

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Very interesting thread!
Makes me appreciate my GT86 Limited even more.

About the stereo, I suggest you look at what's in the cars sold in Europe.
From what I've been able to gather, there's two head units:
Toyota Touch (no sat-nav)
Toyota Touch&Go (with sat-nav)
These are not the same as on other Toyota models (even if the units are called the same), they are unique for the GT86, according to the dealership.
I have a LHD with the Touch&Go, see photo below.
This comes with English as one of the installed languages.
If there's Toyota's with the same system in the US, you should be able to install the US maps on a Touch&Go. If not, a Touch would still give you Radio, CD, Bluetooth handsfree, and stuff.

Also, there's an option available for the GT86 (at least in Europe), a JBL sound system. It replaces all the speakers, and adds an amplifier and a woofer in the trunk. Let me know if anyone's interested in phtos of the JBL system.

Saber_TRD 03-04-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 735046)
Very interesting thread!
Makes me appreciate my GT86 Limited even more.

About the stereo, I suggest you look at what's in the cars sold in Europe.
From what I've been able to gather, there's two head units:
Toyota Touch (no sat-nav)
Toyota Touch&Go (with sat-nav)
These are not the same as on other Toyota models (even if the units are called the same), they are unique for the GT86, according to the dealership.
I have a LHD with the Touch&Go, see photo below.
This comes with English as one of the installed languages.
If there's Toyota's with the same system in the US, you should be able to install the US maps on a Touch&Go. If not, a Touch would still give you Radio, CD, Bluetooth handsfree, and stuff.

Also, there's an option available for the GT86 (at least in Europe), a JBL sound system. It replaces all the speakers, and adds an amplifier and a woofer in the trunk. Let me know if anyone's interested in phtos of the JBL system.

Gald you appreciate the thread.

I've actually left out the stereo stuff, for the most part, due to nav units and such being region specific and of course language issues in some cases. Not to mention the shear amount of optional head units. Still, useful information, thanks.

blanco 06-15-2013 10:17 PM

Can anyone help with push to start part numbers? I can find the tray, tray mat, and lock cap (subaru)but I need the Toyota internals...

troek 07-06-2013 08:37 PM

i got a jdm 86 steering wheel up for sale

F3dzo 07-06-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by troek (Post 1049452)
i got a jdm 86 steering wheel up for sale

Pm me a price please

hunter3232792 07-06-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by F3dzo (Post 1049457)
Pm me a price please



i see you ;) ^^^

F3dzo 07-06-2013 09:10 PM

Lololll

JDM-dono 08-05-2013 08:12 PM

With the tailights are the JDM taillights compatible with USDM FRS? And vice versa, are USDM tails compatible with with RHD versions?

Saber_TRD 08-10-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM-dono (Post 1120549)
With the tailights are the JDM taillights compatible with USDM FRS? And vice versa, are USDM tails compatible with with RHD versions?

They should be. Headlights have a difference in the way they direct light for LHD vs RHD. Taillights don't do anything special though. As for fitting them on the car, there should be no issues.

blanco 08-10-2013 08:47 PM

I think I'm going to give this conversion a shot (non10series) and make some jdm/brz fr-s 86 hybrid.

Great list, will be a fantastic guide.

Saber_TRD 08-13-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blanco (Post 1132664)
I think I'm going to give this conversion a shot (non10series) and make some jdm/brz fr-s 86 hybrid.

Great list, will be a fantastic guide.

Glad you like and find it of use. Good luck with your conversion.

newfienorthca 08-17-2013 02:48 PM

Where can I buy a gt86 airbag for my scion fr-s?

Saber_TRD 08-24-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by newfienorthca (Post 1147945)
Where can I buy a gt86 airbag for my scion fr-s?

Check the Marketplace section of this forum, few stores selling them there.

Sarlacc 08-24-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by newfienorthca (Post 1147945)
Where can I buy a gt86 airbag for my scion fr-s?

Huh? I thought the airbags would be exactly the same for all LHD versions of the car?
:iono:
Personally I hope to never, ever see the airbags in my car.

Saber_TRD 08-24-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 1163686)
Huh? I thought the airbags would be exactly the same for all LHD versions of the car?
:iono:
Personally I hope to never, ever see the airbags in my car.

Scion airbags have an ugly Scion logo on them. Toyota airbags have a lovely 86 logo on them. Might want to re-read my original post.

You also see the airbag every time you drive the car, at least it's external cover. You also touch it every time you go for the horn.

Sarlacc 08-24-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saber_TRD (Post 1164289)
Scion airbags have an ugly Scion logo on them. Toyota airbags have a lovely 86 logo on them. Might want to re-read my original post.

You also see the airbag every time you drive the car, at least it's external cover. You also touch it every time you go for the horn.

Aaah, the cover on the steering wheel? Why didn't you just say so? ;-)
Ugly on the GT86, too. Very bland.

I bought one of these stickers.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTkxWDEwNT..._id=880000500F
Now it looks like this
http://www.86steeringwheelbadge.com/images/After.jpg

Jaknar 09-27-2013 03:32 PM

I know it has been a while since the last post but here is what I have found for part numbers.

JDM “Toyota” Wheel Center Caps (Toyota Part Number: SU003-00797)
JDM Clear Side Markers (Toyota Part Numbers: SU003-02538 RH, SU003-02539 LH)
JDM Exhaust Tips (Toyota Part Number: SU003-01126)
JDM “Toyota” nose badge (Toyota Part Number: SU003-03216)
JDM “Toyota” trunk badge (Toyota Part Number: SU003-03219)
TRD Shift Knob - MS204-18001
EUDM GT86 trunk badge -PZ443-10010-00
JDM red 86 Piston side badge (Toyota Part #: SU003-03126)
Source - Not all from that page, but from the same blog

LH Headlight (SU003-02506) Not sure what is included
Toyota - 86 GT - Front position light (in front bumper) - LH (SU003-02535)
Source - also has RH as well

edit: spelling

Jaknar 09-27-2013 03:54 PM

Also, here is some more part numbers buried on this forum.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12588

So I posted up above, but he has others that I don't

Saber_TRD 11-23-2013 10:37 PM

Bumping

Reminder to self - add part numbers

Note: Why hasn't this been stickied yet? lol

rickyb80 12-16-2013 04:06 PM

10-series to 86 conversion
 
Hi there, I have a 10-series and there's A LOT of stuff the 10-series has that, in my opinion are either the same or better than the Toyota 86.

First off, there's the paint. Until you've actually seen the Silver Ignition paint in several different scenario's, it's hard to understand why it's better. In direct sunlight it's got a Silver Metallic sheen, in overcast conditions its more of a solid grey, at night when light hits the paint it turns bluish, and during the day sometimes it looks periwinkle. So that's the first thing.

Besides that there's the uniqueness and the light up badges (front and rear). I do get a lot of comments on them as they are pretty cool. There's also the frameless mirror (which only comes on the 86 and the 10-series), the headlights (the 10 series has 86 headlights), the trunk mat is different, it comes with the navigation and the HVAC controls of the 86, and the badge on the driver door indicating only 2500 were made.

I know there's more stuff but I don't feel like listing it all. I've actually made up my mind that I'm just going to borrow a few things from the 86 because I don't want to take anything away from the 10-series.

Thus far I've added some red accents to the car (shoulder pads), red drift knob, short shifter, TRD wide black leather, different bushings, etc. I even bought a blue JDM BRZ engine cover. It doesn't match the red theme I've been going for but it was way too cool to pass up. ($65 on eBay + $13 shipping from Japan).

To each their own, but I'm more-the-less just using the 86 as an inspiration, but not too literally. I was considering getting some red/black door sills and possibly getting a TRD red push start button but I'm having trouble rationalizing performing that upgrade.......oh yeah, the alcantara interior parts are pretty tempting too. I might start with just the shift boot and e-brake boot and see how I like it.

Fett4Real 12-16-2013 04:11 PM

Any idea where to get the LHD GT86 Rubber mats?

SavEvoIX 05-29-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fett4Real (Post 1393418)
Any idea where to get the LHD GT86 Rubber mats?

:thumbup:

Sarlacc 06-22-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fett4Real (Post 1393418)
Any idea where to get the LHD GT86 Rubber mats?

The floor mats in my GT86 are not rubber. Where did you see them?

cys19 12-18-2015 04:07 PM

There are also two cosmetic flat plates under the 86/GT86 headlights. What are those called and how can we install them?

kch 12-18-2015 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cys19 (Post 2485454)
There are also two cosmetic flat plates under the 86/GT86 headlights. What are those called and how can we install them?



These?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1360199088

If so, they're headlight washers. Little nozzles pop out and spray the headlights. I'm not sure anyone has tried putting them on a USDM car, but I'm sure it's more complicated than it's worth.

Edit: video.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg5C6Dkx0ks"]GT86 Headlamp washers - YouTube[/ame]

Ashikabi 12-18-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kch (Post 2485559)
These?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1360199088

If so, they're headlight washers. Little nozzles pop out and spray the headlights. I'm not sure anyone has tried putting them on a USDM car, but I'm sure it's more complicated than it's worth.

Edit: video.
GT86 Headlamp washers - YouTube

Those look insanely useless. You're gonna have dirty run marks all over your front end. But if they can be configured to spray sideways...


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