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Luvzgod 08-11-2012 01:55 AM

Grrrrrrrr! I wanted all the bells and whistles that came with the BRZ; but I liked the FRS looks better. I too, wish it had been the Toyota GT86. I would have gladly paid more Toyota. If anyone figures out how to switch or buy keyless proximity door handles, trunk, and engine start through an American website or by using local Toyota dealership, please let me know. Thanks for the cool info Saber_TRD ....DROOL... Leather/suede/alcantara, nav, heated seats, dual climate control, rear spoiler, fog lamps...

ZC6BRZ 08-11-2012 04:03 AM

Two additions:

MT Gas pedal is different (AT is same)
AT Foot rest is different (MT is same)

Rear seat trim between seats is red stitched. You can buy this piece separately.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14359

http://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/...545/parts.aspx

PN SU003-04321

Saber_TRD 08-12-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Luvzgod (Post 372769)
Grrrrrrrr! I wanted all the bells and whistles that came with the BRZ; but I liked the FRS looks better. I too, wish it had been the Toyota GT86. I would have gladly paid more Toyota. If anyone figures out how to switch or buy keyless proximity door handles, trunk, and engine start through an American website or by using local Toyota dealership, please let me know. Thanks for the cool info Saber_TRD ....DROOL... Leather/suede/alcantara, nav, heated seats, dual climate control, rear spoiler, fog lamps...

Some of the dealers in the commercial classifieds, of the marketplace section, on this forum have quite a few but not all of the features/options. I haven't seen anyone with the smart entry system/sensors yet though. To add to my non-helpfulness, I checked with my local Toyota dealership about getting everything in this list and they have refused/cannot order any of the items.

Use the links I provided to contact Toyota/Scion and let them know you want those options/features. It's the only way we'll end up with them from the dealerships.

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Originally Posted by ZC6BRZ (Post 372941)
Two additions:

MT Gas pedal is different (AT is same)
AT Foot rest is different (MT is same)

Rear seat trim between seats is red stitched. You can buy this piece separately.

I have no idea what you are talking about with the pedals, do you have any images to show what you're talking about? As far as I've been able to tell the FR-S has the optional sport pedals that are standard on the GT86/Limited and optional on the G 86, G has the plain black, rubber looking, pedals.

As for the rear seat center piece, I have it mentioned with pics but haven't been able to confirm it's a separate piece. Do you have a source to confirm?

ZC6BRZ 08-12-2012 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saber_TRD (Post 374093)

I have no idea what you are talking about with the pedals, do you have any images to show what you're talking about? As far as I've been able to tell the FR-S has the optional sport pedals that are standard on the GT86/Limited and optional on the G 86, G has the plain black, rubber looking, pedals.

As for the rear seat center piece, I have it mentioned with pics but haven't been able to confirm it's a separate piece. Do you have a source to confirm?

If you look at the JDM catalog, the GT in one of the catalogues has a different sport pedal which is bigger for accel on MT and bigger dead pedal. Were these preproduction pictures that never made it to production?

The link that I posted in my previous post about the rear center piece is my source. I'm currently in Japan, and I've ordered one, should get it at the end of the week.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1hxpgy.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/cq3is.jpg

See in the first catalog pic the MT Gas pedal is bigger, and the AT Gas pedal is "normal" sized, but has a big dead pedal. This is the same catalog that I got last week in Japan. It is different from the FR-S/BRZ.

In the Netz catalog, the MT gas pedal is the same as the FR-S/BRZ.

Wonder if it actually made its way into production.

SupraLove 08-12-2012 01:43 PM

Anybody know about the GT86's stock head unit/nav and if it can be installed into the FR-S'? If so, where can I buy it from? The stock head unit really ****es me off.

Saber_TRD 08-12-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZC6BRZ (Post 374289)
If you look at the JDM catalog, the GT in one of the catalogues has a different sport pedal which is bigger for accel on MT and bigger dead pedal. Were these preproduction pictures that never made it to production?

The link that I posted in my previous post about the rear center piece is my source. I'm currently in Japan, and I've ordered one, should get it at the end of the week.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1hxpgy.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/cq3is.jpg

See in the first catalog pic the MT Gas pedal is bigger, and the AT Gas pedal is "normal" sized, but has a big dead pedal. This is the same catalog that I got last week in Japan. It is different from the FR-S/BRZ.

In the Netz catalog, the MT gas pedal is the same as the FR-S/BRZ.

Wonder if it actually made its way into production.

I've never seen that pedal before, it's no where to be found on the Toyota.jp site. I even went through the accessories page to be sure. It may have been cut.

RC 86 page: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade4/index.html
G 86 page: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade3/index.html
GT 86 page: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade2/index.html
GT 86 Limited page: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade1/index.html
Comparison page: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/spec/e...oto/index.html
Accessories page: http://toyota.jp/service/option/dc/w...001&kind_cd=02

You didn't have the links for the center piece before, but interesting. Good to know it's a separate piece. Updating post.


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Originally Posted by SupraLove (Post 374745)
Anybody know about the GT86's stock head unit/nav and if it can be installed into the FR-S'? If so, where can I buy it from? The stock head unit really ****es me off.

Yes, I answered that question in this thread here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=55

There is no single stock head unit/nav, you can go without one from factory if you like, so you can install an aftermarket of your choice, or you can choose 1 off 11 different head units.

It's not a good idea to take a JDM or EUDM Nav unit, even if they have english they'll be made for their specific regions and the maps would not be of use to you, for the Nav anyway.

ZC6BRZ 08-12-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupraLove (Post 374745)
Anybody know about the GT86's stock head unit/nav and if it can be installed into the FR-S'? If so, where can I buy it from? The stock head unit really ****es me off.

The other issue is that the Japanese radio band is totally different than the USA, and the knobs would be on the wrong side.

Your best bet is to just get an aftermarket one.

quik1987 08-12-2012 07:30 PM

on the canadian brz, the highest trim radio is similar to the pioneer avic 940bt
http://www.al-eds.com/press/wp-conte...40bt_image.jpg

http://www.subaru.ca/content/7907/Me...Multimedia.jpg
Pioneer® AVIC – X9310BT to be exact

Quote:

A high-performing multimedia system for a high-performing car. The 6.1-inch touchscreen controls the entertainment, communication and navigation functions. Bluetooth® mobile phone connectivity delivers crystal-clear, hands-free calling. Smartphone† integration provides for news feed and social media status updates on-the-fly. The system also features iPod®/USB integration, Bluetooth® streaming audio, an SD card reader, and the ability to play DivX® files and DVD discs when the car is parked.

†iPhone 4 compatible.

PhilPhactor 08-12-2012 09:01 PM

Hey guys I know this is a bit random but I this is the closet thread I am looking for my concerns. I wanna get a ultramarine BRZ soon but the red stitching will not go with it well at all in my opinion, and I do not wanna opt out for the Limited. I trying to go for the Premium and i was wondering if i can order from a dealership without the tacky red stitching?

SupraLove 08-12-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilPhactor (Post 375294)
Hey guys I know this is a bit random but I this is the closet thread I am looking for my concerns. I wanna get a ultramarine BRZ soon but the red stitching will not go with it well at all in my opinion, and I do not wanna opt out for the Limited. I trying to go for the Premium and i was wondering if i can order from a dealership without the tacky red stitching?

Hey there, and welcome to the forums! Unfortunately, unless you get the OEM black interior parts from Japan and install them yourself, there's no way you can order it without red stitching. It comes like that from the factory. You could also gut the stock seats and slap some nice Recaros on there. :thumbsup:

Saber_TRD 08-18-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilPhactor (Post 375294)
Hey guys I know this is a bit random but I this is the closet thread I am looking for my concerns. I wanna get a ultramarine BRZ soon but the red stitching will not go with it well at all in my opinion, and I do not wanna opt out for the Limited. I trying to go for the Premium and i was wondering if i can order from a dealership without the tacky red stitching?


This really isn't the right thread or section of the forum for that question. Your best bet is to go to the BRZ section. This section is for the Toyota and Scion, this thread is about converting a Scion to a Toyota. Welcome anyways, but wrong place.

Minovsky 09-01-2012 01:34 AM

Really hating scion for not giving any options...

Chad 09-09-2012 06:25 PM

So has anyone tried the push button start on the FR-S? Did some searches nothing came up... something i might be interested in preferably if I could even order it factory? Hmm..

nashsnazzy 09-10-2012 02:01 AM

There is some dope stuff in here no doubt but where does one purchase any of it?

two40silvia 09-20-2012 03:37 AM

I'm gonna be honest, I didn't read pages 2 through 4, but what about the red triangle "reflector" we got in the states? I heard that on the gt86, the triangle is an actual light. Any word on this?

Calidrifter 09-20-2012 03:39 AM

This is true. There are a couple of DIY's iN the DIY section that allow you to add a bulb for the same effect.

86_ZN6 09-20-2012 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by two40silvia (Post 450611)
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't read pages 2 through 4, but what about the red triangle "reflector" we got in the states? I heard that on the gt86, the triangle is an actual light. Any word on this?

86 and gt86 lights up. (acts as rear fog light)

FRS is just a reflector.

but some made DIYs already and fitted a working light into the housing

Saber_TRD 09-25-2012 08:02 PM

Sorry guys, I haven't been keeping up on this thread and with my last dealings with Toyota/Scion ending with them not wanting to take my money for the parts in this list and the way I've been treated in contacts with them, I've honestly lost a lot of interest. I'm even currently looking at other car companies as this whole situation is a last straw in a long line of situations. Toyota has failed me and this die hard fan is finally giving up and walking away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honeydew (Post 415631)
Really hating scion for not giving any options...

Yeah, they really dropped the ball.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 430808)
So has anyone tried the push button start on the FR-S? Did some searches nothing came up... something i might be interested in preferably if I could even order it factory? Hmm..

I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet, I was going to try but I can't get a hold of the parts from Toyota and I don't want to go through a 3rd party dealer as they may not give me all the parts I need and will obviously have a markup if only for their own profit, which makes sense, but I want to avoid. Cutting out a middle man, yeah?

The chief engineer, Tada-san, said in an interview somewhere that it's possible to convert from a non-dual climate controls with push start to one with. So it should be doable, just need the parts.

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Originally Posted by nashsnazzy (Post 431363)
There is some dope stuff in here no doubt but where does one purchase any of it?

There are some 3rd party vendors in the marketplace section, on this forum, that sell some of the parts. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=32

Just have to sort through them and see who has what. It's not cheap though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by two40silvia (Post 450611)
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't read pages 2 through 4, but what about the red triangle "reflector" we got in the states? I heard that on the gt86, the triangle is an actual light. Any word on this?

That "reflector" is a rear fog light for some areas of the world where it's required by law. In some areas it is against the law to have it. I believe the US may be one of the locations it isn't allowed, but not 100%. Supposedly even Japan doesn't have the light in there. It's for some European countries, if what I've read is correct. I left it out for this reason.

*KID* 10-12-2012 03:12 PM

anyone know the part number for the jdm tail lamps?

Saber_TRD 10-18-2012 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by *KID* (Post 493128)
anyone know the part number for the jdm tail lamps?

Not sure, I've been asking for part numbers since I created this list and I've only been given one. Toyota wouldn't/couldn't even give me part numbers and I doubt the merchants will had them over as that's their secret, so you have to buy from them. Which is fair, they have to make money some how.

Nezz 10-18-2012 04:05 PM

Don't know if anyone else has noted it but it's clearly visible in the brochures and promotional material in Japan that the trim level comes after the name-- It's not a GT86 or a G86 so much as an 86 GT Limited / 86 GT / 86 G / 86 RC. And yeah, the GT86 badge wasn't on any I scoped in .JP (got photos of both ends to prove it, too).

That said? This list is awesome. Lets me compare to the Australian model as well for the things I just didn't pay attention to.

PS; Going to try to see if I can get a Japanese workshop manual "electronics and interior" component. Toyota splits theirs up into lots of sections, like bodywork reference and repair and the like. So I'm going to try to get my mitts on the interior/trim/electronics one, which should cover 90% of this... Because, hey, I want some bits too.

Saber_TRD 12-27-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nezz (Post 505596)
Don't know if anyone else has noted it but it's clearly visible in the brochures and promotional material in Japan that the trim level comes after the name-- It's not a GT86 or a G86 so much as an 86 GT Limited / 86 GT / 86 G / 86 RC. And yeah, the GT86 badge wasn't on any I scoped in .JP (got photos of both ends to prove it, too).

That said? This list is awesome. Lets me compare to the Australian model as well for the things I just didn't pay attention to.

PS; Going to try to see if I can get a Japanese workshop manual "electronics and interior" component. Toyota splits theirs up into lots of sections, like bodywork reference and repair and the like. So I'm going to try to get my mitts on the interior/trim/electronics one, which should cover 90% of this... Because, hey, I want some bits too.

For a while the toyota.jp site had them listed as GT86 Limited, G86, etc. They don't have it that way anymore. The European one is apparently listed as GT86 still. Regardless, people still know what's being talked about.

Glad the list was of use to you.

Nezz 12-27-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saber_TRD (Post 629497)
For a while the toyota.jp site had them listed as GT86 Limited, G86, etc. They don't have it that way anymore. The European one is apparently listed as GT86 still. Regardless, people still know what's being talked about.

Glad the list was of use to you.

The Euro one's being outright sold as a GT86, complete with badges, yeah. Only three more days and I'll finally have mine. June 23 to December 31, been rather a long ride...

Saber_TRD 01-09-2013 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nezz (Post 629873)
The Euro one's being outright sold as a GT86, complete with badges, yeah. Only three more days and I'll finally have mine. June 23 to December 31, been rather a long ride...

Lucky you, I still can't get mine because the Toyota version doesn't exist over here. That and Toyota Canada refuses to get me the parts to do a conversion even though I've given them this list and I'm willing to pay.

Guess you should have the car by now, hope you're enjoying it.

Saab2Frs 01-09-2013 12:28 PM

I love how Scion prides itself on being customizable, but there a la carte part list is so pathetic compared to the Toyota JDM list. I know Scion needed this car to bring the Gen Y segment into the Toyota show rooms, but damn, they could have been ready to go with the TRD packages.

Nezz 01-10-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saab2Frs (Post 653791)
I love how Scion prides itself on being customizable, but there a la carte part list is so pathetic compared to the Toyota JDM list. I know Scion needed this car to bring the Gen Y segment into the Toyota show rooms, but damn, they could have been ready to go with the TRD packages.

I can't believe you guys only get the stripper and we get the six-speaker frameless-mirror heated-seats leather-lined proximity-key geekfest. I mean, it's not cheap, but it's awesome. Look back to the original 86, and you guys got the power window LSD full-16-valve power-antenna pop-up-headlight motherfoogin' GTS! ... and we got the "Corolla Sprinter". Available options? Floor mats and interior colour. LSD? No. 16 valve? No. (we got like, 50 of those). Good suspension and brakes? Hell no. Power anything? Popup headlamps? No...

Saab2Frs 01-10-2013 10:54 AM

If we want all the options then you have to go BRZ or purchase the Scion aftermarket products. I wish they just had the GT 86 in the states. Just be done with Scion. Toyota sells enough in the states to justify scrapping Scion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nezz (Post 655952)
I can't believe you guys only get the stripper and we get the six-speaker frameless-mirror heated-seats leather-lined proximity-key geekfest. I mean, it's not cheap, but it's awesome. Look back to the original 86, and you guys got the power window LSD full-16-valve power-antenna pop-up-headlight motherfoogin' GTS! ... and we got the "Corolla Sprinter". Available options? Floor mats and interior colour. LSD? No. 16 valve? No. (we got like, 50 of those). Good suspension and brakes? Hell no. Power anything? Popup headlamps? No...


root 01-11-2013 12:21 AM

Shouldnt you also list all the parts to convert to RHD? Guess I'm being a bit facetious, but to be "JDM" it really needs that.
Maybe they'll be some postal BR-Z's that you can get parts from, seeing how there are some RHD postal Subarus! :)

Saber_TRD 01-29-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by root (Post 657742)
Shouldnt you also list all the parts to convert to RHD? Guess I'm being a bit facetious, but to be "JDM" it really needs that.
Maybe they'll be some postal BR-Z's that you can get parts from, seeing how there are some RHD postal Subarus! :)

No, actually. You see, when the mods decided to post my thread up on the home page, they changed my post's title. The original title never said anything about a JDM conversion, only that if you wanted to convert from an Scion FR-S to Toyota GT86 limited. They also added the image of the Toyota and Scion fronts to the top of my post. I tried changing it back, but it wouldn't let me edit the title.

Edit: Scratch that. I got tired of this being pointed out so I went back to figure out how to change that title. It's corrected now, looks like you can only edit a title if you click edit then go advanced. At least I won't have to worry about it anymore.

J-Money 01-29-2013 11:40 AM

Can you please post Partnumbers with the accesories..
I cant get anywhere with prices and pictures.. i need the actual part #'s and i dont want you to send me to a vendor. i just need the part numbers!!!!:paddle:

Saber_TRD 01-29-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Money (Post 696974)
Can you please post Partnumbers with the accesories..
I cant get anywhere with prices and pictures.. i need the actual part #'s and i dont want you to send me to a vendor. i just need the part numbers!!!!:paddle:

Sure, as soon as you find them for me.

I've had a standing request for any part numbers since I posted this thread and I've only been handed one, seriously, a single part number. I pestered Toyota for months trying to get the numbers too and they have refused to give them to me. If you think you can convince Toyota to hand them out, then be my guest and try. Feel free to take this list to them, I only ask if you find out the numbers you let me know, so I can update the post.

J-Money 02-01-2013 03:49 PM

The Exhaust bolt That has a spring on... The one that conncet to the cat is Part Number
SU003-01115
I snapped my in half tiggtening it to tightt. guess im to strong lol

1010110 02-05-2013 10:26 PM

Here is the part number for leather/alcantara seat covers listed on this page http://toyota.jp/service/option/dc/w...001&kind_cd=02 08215-18020-C0.

Saber_TRD 02-08-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Money (Post 705010)
The Exhaust bolt That has a spring on... The one that conncet to the cat is Part Number
SU003-01115
I snapped my in half tiggtening it to tightt. guess im to strong lol

So it's a part that's already on the car? As in one that isn't needed to do the conversion since it's already there, normally?

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Originally Posted by 1010110 (Post 714641)
Here is the part number for leather/alcantara seat covers listed on this page http://toyota.jp/service/option/dc/w...001&kind_cd=02 08215-18020-C0.

Those are the covers, not the actual heated leather seats. I slot that under my description of a "half assed" conversion. I'll add the number below the accessories link in my main post though. Still not the actual seats, sadly.

Chaetagnath 02-11-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1010110 (Post 714641)
Here is the part number for leather/alcantara seat covers listed on this page http://toyota.jp/service/option/dc/w...001&kind_cd=02 08215-18020-C0.

To put those on our seats you would need to remove the existing upholstery first, then put these on? Would you need to sew them or do they just unzip? Or take them to an upholstery place? Sorry, I dont know much about seats.

DanoFA20 02-11-2013 06:22 PM

i think everyone cares too much and mostly a lot of the extra accessories just add too much weight.
who cares about red interior? im more worried about how the car drives rather than some red color i think the FRS was made good except the fact we dont get a wing or the headlights other than that i could honestly care less.
throw a few toyota badges and the gt86 logo on it put a wing on it and the head lamps and i think it would be perfect. extra weight means slower in the corners :-P

but OP very well made thread for the people who wish to convert parts to make it almost identical. so thumbs up sir.

dreamerl007 02-11-2013 07:49 PM

I really didnt know where to post this question, so I figured this was the best place, but for the US market, is the BRZ limited currently the closest thing we have to the JDM GT86 Limited?

chanomatik 02-11-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamerl007 (Post 728308)
I really didnt know where to post this question, so I figured this was the best place, but for the US market, is the BRZ limited currently the closest thing we have to the JDM GT86 Limited?

Yes. GT-86 has lots of other bits, like red pieces and nicer seat options, but otherwise they're very close.

Saber_TRD 02-12-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanoFA20 (Post 728054)
i think everyone cares too much and mostly a lot of the extra accessories just add too much weight.
who cares about red interior? im more worried about how the car drives rather than some red color i think the FRS was made good except the fact we dont get a wing or the headlights other than that i could honestly care less.
throw a few toyota badges and the gt86 logo on it put a wing on it and the head lamps and i think it would be perfect. extra weight means slower in the corners :-P

but OP very well made thread for the people who wish to convert parts to make it almost identical. so thumbs up sir.

They actually don't add much weight, the Toyota at most is only 60lbs more:
1,190–1,298 kg (2,624–2,862 lb) (Toyota 86)
1,251–1,273 kg (2,758–2,806 lb) (Scion FR-S)

It's really not a big deal. Remember also, Toyota designed and tested the car as the Limited.

We didn't just miss out on accessories though, we lost out on better brakes, the under car covers which reduce the coefficient of drag. I don't remember where the post was but someone had posted it makes a notable difference in fuel mileage and times. Not to mention the creature comforts, such as heated seats and dual climate control comes in very handy when you live where I do and see -40 multiple times a year.

Glad you found the post informative though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamerl007 (Post 728308)
I really didnt know where to post this question, so I figured this was the best place, but for the US market, is the BRZ limited currently the closest thing we have to the JDM GT86 Limited?

As chanomatik said, yes, it's the closest thing we have to the JDM GT86 Limited. It's still a ways off though. It's missing the knee pads, the seat options as chanomatik mentioned, the under car covers as I mentioned above, the brake upgrade option, a few nick nacks here and there. The biggest difference is the suspension. The BRZ was tuned to understeer more where the Toyota was tuned to neutral. BRZ has a couple extra speakers too if I recall.

1010110 02-12-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaetagnath (Post 728017)
To put those on our seats you would need to remove the existing upholstery first, then put these on? Would you need to sew them or do they just unzip? Or take them to an upholstery place? Sorry, I dont know much about seats.

You don't have to remove anything to install these. They are just covers. I installed them last night and it was very easy to do.

http://db.tt/4hGkNmC1


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