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AsianStyle 06-01-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2270258)
Confusingly 2 of 3 said they would buy the BRZ even though they agree the Miata is the better car and deserved the win. Strange.

When I read it.

It seemed like they believed the BRZ with its utility davantage was better suited for their needs, but agreed the Miata was better for fun possibly.

cdrazic93 06-01-2015 04:19 PM

Interesting the slight snippets they put under first and second place. if its a daily driver; brz is the toy. Other than that the miata has done it again.

Cope52 06-01-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2270258)
Confusingly 2 of 3 said they would buy the BRZ even though they agree the Miata is the better car and deserved the win. Strange.

Where does it say this? Can't find it.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 06-01-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brianhj (Post 2270241)
Are you 50 years old? Buy a miata

Miatas are in with the younger crowd, just not the NC and ND...

DarkSunrise 06-01-2015 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianStyle (Post 2270272)
When I read it.

It seemed like they believed the BRZ with its utility davantage was better suited for their needs, but agreed the Miata was better for fun possibly.

Ah that would make sense.

I still don't really feel the urge to trade in for the ND, although I might consider it if Mazda released a coupe (or a track-approved roll bar option). Listening Mazda? :bonk:

The more I think about it, the car that will likely replace my FR-S one day is the new 1LE Camaro SS. Or possibly a used C7.

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Originally Posted by Cope52 (Post 2270281)
Where does it say this? Can't find it.

I quoted it in my post :)

drewbot 06-01-2015 04:33 PM

I hope this makes someone scratch an itch to get the ND, and puts up their NA2 or NB on sale so I can afford one....

Pat 06-01-2015 04:42 PM

I have trouble understanding how so much of our society views small cars as toys. I realize I'm in the minority here (at least in the U.S.), but the BRZ is my only car. I use it for track days, biking, skiing, road trips, etc. I don't have any problem with lack of space. I'm married, but don't have kids.
:iono:

paiceyfan 06-01-2015 04:44 PM

Need the practicality for picking up my son and doing the weekly grocery shopping while having a decent ride back and forth along the highway and track time when I can get it.


86 for me...


Now, if you want a track car only, which I cannot afford right now...the game changes...

strat61caster 06-01-2015 04:51 PM

Really happy to see that Mazda brought their A-game and that stock for stock the ND gives the 86 a run for it's money, the next few years will be fun.

I highly doubt anybody at Toyobaru is scrambling to get an update out, they have a brother not a competitor, I posted as such in the ND thread, MT's ranking makes perfect sense imo, different cars with a different purpose and a different set of compromises.

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Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling (Post 2270060)
Ruin what exactly?

“Yet when I meet up with rival sports car chief engineers (and we do at various times around the world), we all talk about what we call the Devil’s Cycle of ever-increasing power, speed, weight and price."

-Tetsuya Tada Source

Edit: A larger displacement engine would incur additional taxation and fees in most markets, it would likely be a U.S. special which of course means higher prices as they must go through all the engineering work testing and certification to make it work, and with the increased cost you better increase the amenities to match the price which means you get a weight increase which means it got slower which means you better add more power and then oh no the price went up again... And you get an M3 "sports car" that weighs 3,500 lbs.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 06-01-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 2270309)
I hope this makes someone scratch an itch to get the ND, and puts up their NA2 or NB on sale so I can afford one....

Would have made me sell my NA8 if the pricing wasn't berserk.

drewbot 06-01-2015 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ (Post 2270341)
Would have made me sell my NA8 if the pricing wasn't berserk.

omg...$40,000 for the GT trim???? :iono:

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 06-01-2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 2270349)
omg...$40,000 for the GT trim???? :iono:

I know right. Maybe they could have tempted me at $35k but $40k is bonkers.

Cope52 06-01-2015 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ (Post 2270341)
Would have made me sell my NA8 if the pricing wasn't berserk.

You guys have lower taxes in CN? Free health care? Lord Almighty!

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 06-01-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cope52 (Post 2270363)
You guys have lower taxes in CN? Free health care? Lord Almighty!

Healthcare is not free where I am and I am pretty sure taxes are lower in the US still...


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