Oregon to test pay-per-mile idea as replacement for gas tax
 

You know that if this goes to a vote it would pass thanks to the greentards in PDX. And if you think it would stay at 1.5 your are not just nuts, you are stupid.

Oregon to test pay-per-mile idea as replacement for gas tax

May 20, 2:17 AM (ET)

By GOSIA WOZNIACKA


PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Oregon is about to embark on a first-in-the-nation program that aims to charge car owners not for the fuel they use, but for the miles they drive.


The program is meant to help the state raise more revenue to pay for road and bridge projects at a time when money generated from gasoline taxes are declining across the country, in part, because of greater fuel efficiency and the increasing popularity of fuel-efficient, hybrid and electric cars.


Starting July 1, up to 5,000 volunteers in Oregon can sign up to drive with devices that collect data on how much they have driven and where. The volunteers will agree to pay 1.5 cents for each mile traveled on public roads within Oregon, instead of the tax now added when filling up at the pump.

Oh that's a great idea. Nothing could possibly go wrong with that.

If I lived in Oregon and drove a vehicle that got less than 15mpg, I'd totally for it. I don't live in Oregon, and the only time a vehicle I've owned has ever gotten less than 15mpg is at the track. So no thanks.

"After the American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon raised concerns about privacy and government surveillance, the state built protections into the program, said ACLU's interim executive director Jann Carson.

Drivers will be able to install an odometer device without GPS tracking."

Will not comply, even if it means I have to leave this f-ing state.

No way i am going to let them in my garage to install this on my car!

:word:

I'm crafty enough to just disconnect the thing...that is if they somehow manage to put it on in the first place

its the same thing as the ones insurance companies use, it tracks where you turn the car on and where it turns off, how many miles driven, acceleration/braking events, and nothing else in between.

however if they're going to charge me per mile vs per gallong of fuel i'm moving next to work, buying a 454 chevelle ss and chug fuel at 4mpg while driving a mile or two.

Or a communal gas-getter with a 100 gallon tank that gets driven 50 miles a year.

Don't understand the emoticon.

Word.

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You don't think the nanny-state would let you get away with that, do you? Somewhere is the final bill would be a requirement for you to "allow" the state to compare your vehicle odo to theirs yearly, or whenever they damn well please.

I'd also gladly leave this state are move to a less idiotic one if they end up deciding this is a good idea

You don't think the nanny-state would let you get away with that, do you? Somewhere is the final bill would be a requirement for you to "allow" the state to compare your vehicle odo to theirs yearly, or whenever they damn well please.

I don't live in Oregon and even I am hoping this does not pass. If it does, someone over here in Seattle will try to do the same.

Btw, what about people who have to travel long distances for work? Apologies as I only know what was posted here. :)

Be interesting to see, being that the Democrats are such champions of the little people.

they, and I, better get the lube ready

Article mentions WA already setting money aside for a similar program.

In this case, I really hope this does not pass - in Oregon or anywhere else in the country....

Something along these lines is coming. As cars get more efficient and more people adopt electric vehicles the gas tax revenue will continue to go down. The government needs to pay for road maintenance and this is the straw they have grasped onto.

The WA state proposal has an option to pay a set amount based on your odometer, but if you travel out of state you would end up paying more than the nanny state device.

If the future holds such rediculous concepts such as our relinquishing ownership rights to our vehicle purchases, reduced to licensing use for the life of the vehicle along with this new idea of tracking every mile I travel, I'm taking the fucking bus to work until I find a home elsewhere.

There are far less intrusive taxation concepts already in practice. Who would have thought that if they continue to stack taxes on gasoline that people would respond and reduce fuel consumption?

We could always go the model of other countries and states and heavily toll the roads people use for commuting.

Don't want to be a wet blanket, but if we want decent roads we have to pay for them. Just because cars are more fuel efficient doesn't reduce the wear and tear on the roads. So you can pay for it in repairs to your vehicle or taxes to fix the roads, your choice.

Nobody is complaining about a gas tax. I'd be willing to pay more if roads was where it all went. I REFUSE to let the state of Oregon put a nanny in my car. Which means I probably need to plan on moving.

It's a pilot project. Looking for volunteers...

People panicking like it's F-ing mandatory.

Texas is calling ;-)

The best way to respond to something like this is when it's in its infancy and you can still effect change. Once it gets established it's much harder to get rid of.

You don't watch the shitheads in Salem much, do you.

You have no clue what I do or don't watch.

I'm betting it won't be mandatory anytime soon. It's failing now as a pilot project -- they can't get people to sign up.
And there would be massive backlash from all sides if the shitheads tried to do so.
But if there is a better way to get the prius, leaf, tesla etc drivers to pay their share, I'm sure they would like to hear about it.

What state agency do you work for? Easy, tax them annually at an average rate, or allow THEM to tell the state how much they drove. Keep your garbage out of my car. Sound Democrat thinking, though. We need to address a small number of people, so lets come up with something that sucks, is intrusive and fucks everyone. Perhaps they used the ACA as an example.

Been using the calculator here. According to them, if I do my best do drive my mileage as low as I can with E85 I will pay less than I do now in gas tax. I can use an eco-disaster fuel which costs less and pay less in taxes. Win all the way around.

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Oregon is about to embark on a first-in-the-nation program that aims to charge car owners not for the fuel they use, but for the miles they drive.



Are they stupid cause any business like seaside for touris or any vacation spot will go out of business!!! No No No!! :barf:

I wonder how much revenue they lose from people that either register their cars out of state or are legitimately traveling through. I'm sure all the folks in Vancouver, WA will be filling up their gas tanks as well as the trunks of their SUV's in Oregon.

lets start by banning studded tires, those do more damage to the roads than anything else. NOBODY NEEDS FUCKING STUDDED WINTER TIRES IN THIS STATE, not even on the other side of the mountains.

I know i would.

Amen.