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troek 05-12-2015 06:40 AM

Project Mu RSF 01A Review
 
I was previously using the HC-CS pads from Project Mu, but I was starting to fade them as I progressed. I ordered up a set of these as I was interested that they were developed just for this platform. First off, for anyone who thinks track pads font work in the cold, these DO! Im sure though that the pad/rotor life will suffer. I was shocked how much bite these pads had even before bedding them in. The bedding in process was no joke compared to bedding in my HC-CS pads. I couldn't get them to fad as much as i tried, tons of smoke, and a nice transfer layer, but just no fade like i usually get bedding in pads. On the track they are amazing, the initial bite really help, and even on the same fluid on the same day, they have a firmer pedal feel. The rear pads have a different compound, that has a higher initial MU(0.45~0.58μ compared to the fronts at 0.41~0.49μ). Some of the turns on Fuji speedway require trail braking, no way around it as they have a rapidly decreasing radius at the exit, so having a more aggressive rear pad really helped me rotate the car. Granted, I'm just a beginner, but I thought it was beneficial. Have to be careful though, as before if i got too heavy on the trail braking i would understeer, and now its very easy to lose the tail. Brake dust is horrible bla bla whatever. Like most people who've tried track pads, I'll never be able to track on street pads again lol. Last turn in this video has some overly aggressive trail braking(and a sloppy recovery)
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CSG Mike 05-12-2015 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troek (Post 2245788)
I was previously using the HC-CS pads from Project Mu, but I was starting to fade them as I progressed. I ordered up a set of these as I was interested that they were developed just for this platform. First off, for anyone who thinks track pads dont work in the cold, these DO! Im sure though that the pad/rotor life will suffer. I was shocked how much bite these pads had even before bedding them in. The bedding in process was no joke compared to bedding in my HC-CS pads. I couldn't get them to fad as much as i tried, tons of smoke, and a nice transfer layer, but just no fade like i usually get bedding in pads. On the track they are amazing, the initial bite really help, and even on the same fluid on the same day, they have a firmer pedal feel. The rear pads have a different compound, that has a higher initial MU(0.45~0.58μ compared to the fronts at 0.41~0.49μ). Some of the turns on Fuji speedway require trail braking, no way around it as they have a rapidly decreasing radius at the exit, so having a more aggressive rear pad really helped me rotate the car. Granted, I'm just a beginner, but I thought it was beneficial. Have to be careful though, as before if i got too heavy on the trail braking i would understeer, and now its very easy to lose the tail. Brake dust is horrible bla bla whatever. Like most peopel whove tried track pads, I'll never be able to track on street pads again lol. Last turn in this video has some overly aggressive trail braking(and a sloppy recovery)

Just highlighting a few key points for everyone else reading this thread :)

CSG David 05-12-2015 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troek (Post 2245788)
I was previously using the HC-CS pads from Project Mu, but I was starting to fade them as I progressed. I ordered up a set of these as I was interested that they were developed just for this platform. First off, for anyone who thinks track pads font work in the cold, these DO! Im sure though that the pad/rotor life will suffer. I was shocked how much bite these pads had even before bedding them in. The bedding in process was no joke compared to bedding in my HC-CS pads. I couldn't get them to fad as much as i tried, tons of smoke, and a nice transfer layer, but just no fade like i usually get bedding in pads. On the track they are amazing, the initial bite really help, and even on the same fluid on the same day, they have a firmer pedal feel. The rear pads have a different compound, that has a higher initial MU(0.45~0.58μ compared to the fronts at 0.41~0.49μ). Some of the turns on Fuji speedway require trail braking, no way around it as they have a rapidly decreasing radius at the exit, so having a more aggressive rear pad really helped me rotate the car. Granted, I'm just a beginner, but I thought it was beneficial. Have to be careful though, as before if i got too heavy on the trail braking i would understeer, and now its very easy to lose the tail. Brake dust is horrible bla bla whatever. Like most peopel whove tried track pads, I'll never be able to track on street pads again lol. Last turn in this video has some overly aggressive trail braking(and a sloppy recovery)

So you finally discovered these pads. ;) Hehe. :D

JozhGoober 05-13-2015 10:11 AM

Any idea how these would compare to the PMU Club Racers?

CSG Mike 05-13-2015 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JozhGoober (Post 2247518)
Any idea how these would compare to the PMU Club Racers?

Well, for starters, they're gonna be in the 999 price territory, and special order only (expect ~8-10 weeks in the states, unless you want to pay for air freight, which reduces it to about 2 weeks).

Volo 09-25-2021 02:24 PM

Replaced by the 999s?
 
CSG no longer shows these pads for the 86/BRZ. All I see are the Prjct Mu 999s. Did the 999s replace the RSF 01As?

CSG Mike 09-27-2021 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volo (Post 3468730)
CSG no longer shows these pads for the 86/BRZ. All I see are the Prjct Mu 999s. Did the 999s replace the RSF 01As?

They're unrelated pads.

Mainly, zero demand for RSF01A and supersceded by other products.

If you want this type of pad, but superior, check out the CSG C2.


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