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AaronCompNetSys 12-14-2010 12:39 PM

AWD FT-86 Diagram
 
When the whole AWD debate was raging over at Nasioc, I made this diagram to show that AWD really was feasible for the FT-86. I recently watched Ultimate Factories Lamborghini this weekend and saw a clear view on exactly how they do AWD. Surprisingly, I was exactly right :) On the Lambo, the secondary drive shaft runs parallel to the crank, attached directly to the block. The rear diff is also attached directly to the block. For a Subaru motor, the secondary shaft would have to be offset, prolly to the bottom right or left of the crank.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Lsykl2SA2ts/TQ...WD%20FT-86.jpg

This image is just for your enjoyment. I don't expect it to ever be a reality for this car. Enjoy!

Further indulging: so if Porsche ever wanted to make an AWD Cayman, as is available in Forza, would it be in a layout like this?

ichitaka05 12-14-2010 01:21 PM

We had this debate long time ago... bout 2 months ago? Yeah, we had that example along w Legacy B4 racing setup, Skyline setup, & how boxer engine was small enough so just move the engine bit more forward & it's possible.

Thanks for the diagram

AaronCompNetSys 12-14-2010 01:29 PM

Yeah, saw the discussion but didn't see any pixels. I like pixels.

ichitaka05 12-14-2010 10:11 PM

true, it's nice to seen it w a pic

Tougerenner 12-15-2010 03:15 PM

the Legacy B4 GT300 has a drivetrain similar to your diagram.

http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/sgt2009/machine.html

http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/sgt...gs/09015_2.jpg
http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/subB4_2.jpg

Matador 12-15-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tougerenner (Post 23392)


yup, and it's been posted at least 3 times before.

Loving that exterior shot of the Legacy though :w00t:

RWD_only 12-18-2010 10:06 PM

I don't think the problem is whether or not they can do it but, rather, do it and keep a $20-$25k price tag.

DanZilla 12-19-2010 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWD_only (Post 23518)
I don't think the problem is whether or not they can do it but, rather, do it and keep a $20-$25k price tag.

:sigh: probably get closer to 30k if AWD

70NYD 12-19-2010 02:36 AM

The thing is this needs to sit 4 adults, if anything Toyota said is true... So having it awd means engine can't be behind the axle, or the wheelbase needs to become longer

Matador 12-19-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70NYD (Post 23535)
The thing is this needs to sit 4 adults, if anything Toyota said is true... So having it awd means engine can't be behind the axle, or the wheelbase needs to become longer


wait what?

ichitaka05 12-19-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanZilla (Post 23533)
:sigh: probably get closer to 30k if AWD

If it was Subaru FT STI come w AWD system over 300hp/300tq for over $30k, I think, no one gonna complain. I for one won't

Allch Chcar 12-19-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70NYD (Post 23535)
The thing is this needs to sit 4 adults, if anything Toyota said is true... So having it awd means engine can't be behind the axle, or the wheelbase needs to become longer

4 adults? Where did you read that tiny little detail?


The AWD controversy was played out very thoroughly here. The problem with AWD in the FT-86 is the solutions aren't cheap. Not that they are impossible.

AaronCompNetSys 01-21-2011 03:46 PM

An unfortunate bump #3. I bet this car has AWD of this thread's design, a reverse Lambo style. Its so so believably hideous looking.

Official video of the new Ferrari FF

http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b...61b9970c-800wi

KiingDavid 01-21-2011 08:58 PM

awd would be nice for the winter but there are many downfalls to it. price for one, second increased weight, third engine closer to the front inducing more understeer, bigger turning ratio, less steering feedback. also 2wd is enough to put down 260hp/260ftlbs


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