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Adrian002 05-02-2015 10:20 AM

What supporting Mods do you REALLY need?
 
Alright I've done all kinds of reading about FI supporting mods on this forum but I feel like I don't have a real route to go with here.




I have an A/T FRS, looking to do a Vortech system set up and i'm aiming for a reliable daily driver with some pop since this car is really missing it.
I've read up on everything from oil coolers, catch cans, tranny coolers...but what do you REALLY need in order to commute to and from work, maybe some high revs on the weekends yknow nothing crazy guys.
There are a lot of cool and smart FRS owners on this forum that have seen it all when it comes to this car, so i'm looking for your opinion.:burnrubber:

Cal3000 05-02-2015 10:53 AM

All you need is a bolt on kit and a good tune to be very basic.
Go for an oil cooler/larger radiator if you decide to track the car. A catch can or AOS may not be necessary since you wont be in constant boost. You may want to change your fuel pump as it would be running higher duty cycle but it isn't critical. Just dont drive around hard with a close to empty tank because you may starve the pump.
250whp range is usually a bolt and go.

If you want more power or want to run E85, you will have to get larger injectors or find a tuner that can tune for the use of both PI/DI at the same time.
Vortech kits don't make a lot of torque, so a new clutch isn't necessary.

FirestormFRS 05-02-2015 10:54 AM

I would suggest only an oil cooler based on your location. The AT really only needs a cooler if you hammer it for extended periods of time.

Adrian002 05-02-2015 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal3000 (Post 2234939)
All you need is a bolt on kit and a good tune to be very basic.
Go for an oil cooler/larger radiator if you decide to track the car. A catch can or AOS may not be necessary since you wont be in constant boost. You may want to change your fuel pump as it would be running higher duty cycle but it isn't critical. Just dont drive around hard with a close to empty tank because you may starve the pump.
250whp range is usually a bolt and go.

If you want more power or want to run E85, you will have to get larger injectors or find a tuner that can tune for the use of both PI/DI at the same time.
Vortech kits don't make a lot of torque, so a new clutch isn't necessary.

Thanks very much for your input, I appreciate it.:happyanim:

Adrian002 05-02-2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirestormFRS (Post 2234940)
I would suggest only an oil cooler based on your location. The AT really only needs a cooler if you hammer it for extended periods of time.

Yeah, an oil cooler seems to be a good idea. I'll be driving it in SoCal. I wouldn't have dreamed of shipping my car to this infernal base....cars take a beating out here from scorching sun and only DIY maintenance. There's a guy with an earlier gen supra here and the turbo gives a nasty audible pop when he parks it. I can't imagine how much caked up oil is in it...only boosted car I've seen on this base to date

jflogerzi 05-02-2015 11:06 AM

Yup for a base vortech kit just a solid tune and a oil cooler. The smaller mocal with the 13 row radiator like sold on the Perrin kit should be perfect. If you are getting v3 becareful if you head to the track

Zan 05-02-2015 01:17 PM

Is there an issue with trying to track the v3?

jflogerzi 05-02-2015 03:07 PM

Yes. Under heavy load they dont hold up well. I believe there is a heavy duty oil cooled v2 you want if your are going run at the track

Kiske 05-02-2015 03:47 PM

For what it is worth~

When I went FI I asked LJ/Fullblown what should I do first for cooling. Their oil cooler or their radiator?

They replied with radiator. It is the better value per dollar for a lower cost ($300ish for a radiator vs $500 for an oil cooler.) And better supporting mod for the daily driver.

Keep in mind this was which to do first.

jflogerzi 05-02-2015 04:14 PM

Its been proven that the stock rad is fine. And he is going sc and not a turbo so the oil cooler is a much better choice. In so cal on a na car oil temps can climb

R3NIK 05-02-2015 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiske (Post 2235126)
For what it is worth~

When I went FI I asked LJ/Fullblown what should I do first for cooling. Their oil cooler or their radiator?

They replied with radiator. It is the better value per dollar for a lower cost ($300ish for a radiator vs $500 for an oil cooler.) And better supporting mod for the daily driver.

Keep in mind this was which to do first.

Zero clue why they'd recommend that. Stock water cooling is excellent. Oil cooling is definitely a priority in any warm climate or FI setup.

Jaden 05-02-2015 07:58 PM

Are you at GTMO or in Cali???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian002 (Post 2234943)
Yeah, an oil cooler seems to be a good idea. I'll be driving it in SoCal. I wouldn't have dreamed of shipping my car to this infernal base....cars take a beating out here from scorching sun and only DIY maintenance. There's a guy with an earlier gen supra here and the turbo gives a nasty audible pop when he parks it. I can't imagine how much caked up oil is in it...only boosted car I've seen on this base to date

Your profile thing says you're in GTMO? but you say you're at a base in Cali.
if you were at GTMO were you just on base or part of the JTF??

JAden

DAEMANO 05-03-2015 02:29 AM

Oil cooler and catch can are a must. Then catless header. If you change pulley, then consider wheel/tire upgeade, a stg 2 clutch, brake pads, fluid, and lines.

sw20kosh 05-03-2015 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiske (Post 2235126)
For what it is worth~

When I went FI I asked LJ/Fullblown what should I do first for cooling. Their oil cooler or their radiator?

They replied with radiator. It is the better value per dollar for a lower cost ($300ish for a radiator vs $500 for an oil cooler.) And better supporting mod for the daily driver.

Keep in mind this was which to do first.

Lol limit of stock radiator hasn't been found even on track. That was bad advice.


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