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Captain Snooze 04-30-2015 06:33 AM

Porsche Patents a Variable Compression Ratio
 
Interesting concept.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/2...uel-efficiency

serialk11r 04-30-2015 06:58 AM

No. Variable connecting rods is a horrible idea. The connecting rods are the components that see the greatest stress, why would you want to add moving gadgetry to them?

Lotus' moving puck idea is probably the best. For a 4 stroke engine, place the spark plug in a moving piston for a bit of compression ratio adjustment.

Calum 04-30-2015 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 2232409)
No. Variable connecting rods is a horrible idea. The connecting rods are the components that see the greatest stress, why would you want to add moving gadgetry to them?

Lotus' moving puck idea is probably the best. For a 4 stroke engine, place the spark plug in a moving piston for a bit of compression ratio adjustment.

Not to mention the weight.

strat61caster 04-30-2015 03:33 PM

VW's were just getting too dang reliable after they fixed the exploding fuel pump.

At first glance nifty, anything that prolongs the viability of combustion engines is a-ok in my book, while the article focuses on reducing turbo lag I immediately take this as a way to create a truer modern atkins cycle with an intake stroke shorter than the expansion stroke, maybe not at first but it's possible.

rice_classic 04-30-2015 03:53 PM

Like most German designs that are ahead of the curve: It will work brilliantly...briefly. (also: see "Alfa")

serialk11r 04-30-2015 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2232864)
At first glance nifty, anything that prolongs the viability of combustion engines is a-ok in my book, while the article focuses on reducing turbo lag I immediately take this as a way to create a truer modern atkins cycle with an intake stroke shorter than the expansion stroke, maybe not at first but it's possible.

You don't want that thing to be moving around much...lol

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the valve timing implementation of Atkinson cycle right now. Displacement is cheap and not hard to add.

The reason you want variable compression ratio is because when at part throttle, the combustion chamber temperature is going to be pathetically low and efficiency is horrible. So ideally you'd be able to adjust compression ratio up to like 30:1 at idle and reduce it to 10 at full throttle to keep burn temperature up.

Having a higher static compression already helps low load efficiency quite a bit as can be seen with Mazda's Skyactiv line, because 13-14 vs. 10 is quite a huge difference already.

cdrazic93 04-30-2015 10:25 PM

They used turbo lag as a reason to keep compression down alluding to the fact that as boost is low, comp will be raised up.

Doesnt make sense when they use VGT's. The article also never mentions DI either, which the new corvette ZO6 uses at a 10:1 ratio.

Increasing the ratio is a complicated idea, since as soon as your past idle, the compression is dynamic not static.

Poodles 05-01-2015 12:21 AM

The Germans have never understood the KISS principal. "German engineering" simply means over-complicated and costly to replace when it inevitably fails.


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