Oil Cooler install in the GTA..
 

If you were going to purchase aftermarket oil cooler for BRZ in the GTA, which would you buy who would you get to install it?


East end preferred but not bothered.. shop must be open weekends though. As that's the only time I don't need the car at the moment.

I got mine from BRZWORLD, Barrington would know the best local install.


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oYle kw00ler
 

BRZWORLD did my install of the new MISHI oil cooler. A real nice piece of kit .
And - what a difference ! :D

In combo with the OFT temp monitor, watching the numbers will be very informative on the track.

I have not yet been able to get the oil over 200 degrees (waiting till summer arrives again (It disappeared last week).

The smaller coolers (Perrin) have shown temps in excess of what is safe during hard tracking, I doubt the bigger Mishi will do that on a non aspirated car, I will log, and report.


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Did you get the thermostatic or regular? If you drive in the winter the regular might prevent you from getting the oil to temp within a reasonable time. I have heard you can do something to block it off if need be.

I am having a hard time getting my head around paying so much for an oil cooler. I can get an OEM style one for around $300.00 USD but apparently it is mostly effective at warming up oil to operating temp and only cools maybe 3 degrees thereabouts. I was uncomfortable lapping at 122C on the weekend with 5W30.

Thermostatic, but it refers to the coating, its not a thermostat. The quality of the machining, the braided hoses, misc. parts etc. and search for same bits and pieces of same hi quality on ones own, and convenience, justifies the price imho.


I hide in salt weather, but if I wintered my track car I would definitely put an oil thermostat in (looks better than a piece of cardboard).


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http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps20249202.jpg

Uhhhhhhhhhh, no...

http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-t...ich-plate.html

UUHHH-YES


That's what I thought also, but Mishi in U.S told BRZWORLD I got the one w/o the thermostat, but just the thermostatic coating of the sandwich plate.

I also did not go for the fan etc.

I saw the install of my other cooler, but not the Mishi, and after, I was to busy checking for leaks to look closely at the plate.

Maybe ! Goin out to look !

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There are 2 kits for the FRS, mine is the one without the thermostat. The above link is generic Mishi plate not the FRS kits below .


http://www.mishimoto.com/subaru-brz-...er-kit-13.html


A phone inquiry to Mishi asking about the thermostat resulted in them saying "thermostatic refers to the coating". (Every corporation has idiots, was that one ? I don't know).


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@RFB I was talking to Barrington on Facebook about one of his guy's running the tranny cooler soon. Is that you?

ya maahn.

Anyone considering this one?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-13-row-10...55646f&vxp=mtr

I have heard often that 13 row to small for tracking.

@RFB Please post some feedback on it when you have a chance

As in this ?


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...79#post2257579


Bottom of page - went in slicker than snake shit slidin off'n a glass doorknob, much easier than the Mishi oil cooler.


The Mishi leaks after install and needs re-tightening when stacking tolerances, heat expansion cycles, etc, etc, happens, like lug nuts.


But Mish warns to check for seepage periodically iff'n you WOT ALOT, just in case.


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You definitely got their company idiot then... directly from the description on that link:

Based on the description of just the sandwich plate (which describes it as having a thermostat), the thermostatic kit definitely has a thermostat in it.

Plus, a thermostatic coating would be powdercoating, but those plates are definitely anodized.

Thermostatic definitely necessary for winter driving! Or a shutoff valve.

Is this true? I'm in the market and was considering this one,since it seems comparable to the Perrins one: http://www.maximalperformance.com/fr...oil-cooler-kit

Alternatively, I'll consider the Mishimoto with the Thermostat or a Jackson Racing cooler if they offer much better cooling.

I wouldn't, our cars run REALLY hot on the track, especially the big tracks.

Looks like they can offer a 19 Row Setrab instead of the 13 Row for a slight price bump.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88966

I think there may be a thin and a thick 19 row, the thick one is better, holds more oil.


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There is definitely a thermostat in the Orange/Gold thermostatic sandwich plate from mishi. You can see the Black bolt running through the back - that's a thermostat with a spring inside...can visually inspect that it controls the channel. Although, I've been told that it will never fully close, always a trickle flow to prevent airlock.

Mishi Oil Cooler Update
 

Since we have had a couple of days of summer, I was able to briefly manage 200 degrees while stopped in traffic.
Still can't push it hard enough around civilians to get it hotter.

My set up has the License Plate dead center of the shark mouth, directly in front of the oil rad, to block it, and prevent cooling.
The plate comes off on the track for full airflow.

If I get my tires in time from Factory Tire I will be running the Gran Prix F1 track at Mosport on Thurs. and will report back the results.


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Anyone have experience with the CX Racing? It looks to be about $550.00 CDN$ including shipping and appears to be a 19 row. I dont mind assembling the hoses to save $300!

Price looks reasonable, but their spelling isn't fantastic lol

I might forgive them this one time. :thumbsup:

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To be honest, its a very simple device, so as long as they used quality materials, I wouldn't imagine there being any issues.

Hey guys! Chiming in here to clear up any confusion in regards to our oil cooler kit. We do offer both a thermostatic and non-thermostatic oil cooler setup. This refers to the type of sandwich plate being used, not any coating included on the component. Confusion may have occurred due to the way we differentiate between our options, which is with the use of two different color anodized finishes. Our non-thermostatic plates are silver and our thermostatic units are gold. The thermostatic sandwich plate utilizes an internal thermostat to restrict oil flow until an appropriate operating temperature is reached. We recommend this for most vehicles seeing frequent road use and/or cool temperatures. Outright track vehicles should have no issue using our non-thermostatic kit.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions about this kit!

Is this occurring with our kit installed?

Thanks
-John

Just got back from the Formula 1 Gran Prix Track at Mosport.

Flogged the car hard, full day session. It was hot and humid.

While tracking, oil temps were generally cooler than sitting and idling in
traffic !

Second half of the day, got into serious WOT, lapping Porsches etc. (Surprised at the new Vette ! One cornered like us but faster and smoother !)

No Mishi - 270 on hot days and it stays at that temp !

With the Mishi rad, 220 several times, 224 once, but those highest temps only briefly, until the car moved faster, then the temp goes down immediately.


Worth every ruble ! :respekt:


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Tempted to get the @Mishimoto kit. Not that I need it, but the bling factor is off the charts.

@RFB and the Stark performed excellent too????

Absolutely ! A big rad also.

This time a new ENEOUS flush and refill instead of drain and top up. Tried both auto and paddles, both excellent all day, no bad effects like my last Mosport big track, but smooth, fast gear changes, and rev matching.

I am confident I can do the yearly drain and top up from now on.The savings in fluids will pay for both kits.

Both kits stupid simple to install (just grunt work).

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I spent about $590 CDN for a 19 Row Series 6 Setrab Core and T-Stat Mocal Sandwich Plate shipped to Niagara Falls, NY. As an alternative a 15 Row Series 9 Setrab core was available as well.

I don't have any experience with CX Racing and I have no idea whether this is a great kit or not, but the 2 questions to consider is who makes the 19 Row core and what Sandwich Plate (T-Stat or not) is being offered.

That sounds like a good deal. The intercooler they installed today is a fair bit bigger than the standard one that comes with my HKS system. I need to figure out what size and where I will locate the oil radiator when I get my car. I don't mind setting up a temp mailbox in Niagara Falls. Just have to unbox everything and put it in the spare tire storage to avoid 13%. Where did you buy your cooler from?

Bought through Maximal Performance - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...17&postcount=5

I use these guys for my deliveries. http://kuhnsstorage.com/
They aren't the most flexible in hours or operations, but they are affordable and I've never had a bad experience with them. Best part is I can usually get over the boarder and back in 15-20 mins :thumbsup:

Is this to be expected regardless of the manufacturer? I don't want to have to be pulling the bumper cover after every lapping day if I can help it...

Just add some Teflon tape and put your mind at ease. The AN fittings are very good, they may need reltght ending once after the first heat cycle but that should be it.

ALL need checking after install, and re-tighten. Then look at the fittings under the oil filter, DO NOT remove the bumper, just lift the hood, you are looking for seepage UNDER THE OIL FILTER, AND FITTINGS.
My central bolt and the sandwich plate fittings had to be re-torqued after about 50 miles.


To check for rad seepage, look through the grill and you can clearly see the oil rad and fittings. The rad fittings were tightened with a torque bar, we did not retighten, and it did not seep.


I ran a hot day, all day Formula I track, checked at every pit stop and all fittings were fine.


Teflon tape is controversial, we used NO sealant of any kind and all is good.


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Going to be running the GP track at Mosport July 4 and 5.. don't have a cooler yet and its unlikely I will have one before then, but its on my must have list... Like to have someone install it and stand behind it...

I'd call iGarage or CanJam, both should stand behind the install.

Any idea what they would charge ? :iono: