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wparsons 05-22-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB (Post 2258789)
There are 2 kits for the FRS, mine is the one without the thermostat. The above link is generic Mishi plate not the FRS kits below .


http://www.mishimoto.com/subaru-brz-...er-kit-13.html


A phone inquiry to Mishi asking about the thermostat resulted in them saying "thermostatic refers to the coating". (Every corporation has idiots, was that one ? I don't know).

You definitely got their company idiot then... directly from the description on that link:

Quote:

Billet aluminum oil sandwich plate in standard or thermostatic form
Based on the description of just the sandwich plate (which describes it as having a thermostat), the thermostatic kit definitely has a thermostat in it.

Plus, a thermostatic coating would be powdercoating, but those plates are definitely anodized.

wbradley 05-22-2015 05:46 PM

Thermostatic definitely necessary for winter driving! Or a shutoff valve.

toraider 05-25-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB (Post 2258883)
I have heard often that 13 row to small for tracking.

Is this true? I'm in the market and was considering this one,since it seems comparable to the Perrins one: http://www.maximalperformance.com/fr...oil-cooler-kit

Alternatively, I'll consider the Mishimoto with the Thermostat or a Jackson Racing cooler if they offer much better cooling.

RFB 05-25-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by toraider (Post 2261962)
Is this true? I'm in the market and was considering this one,since it seems comparable to the Perrins one: http://www.maximalperformance.com/fr...oil-cooler-kit

Alternatively, I'll consider the Mishimoto with the Thermostat or a Jackson Racing cooler if they offer much better cooling.



I wouldn't, our cars run REALLY hot on the track, especially the big tracks.

toraider 05-26-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB (Post 2261978)
I wouldn't, our cars run REALLY hot on the track, especially the big tracks.

Looks like they can offer a 19 Row Setrab instead of the 13 Row for a slight price bump.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88966

RFB 05-27-2015 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by toraider (Post 2262712)
Looks like they can offer a 19 Row Setrab instead of the 13 Row for a slight price bump.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88966


I think there may be a thin and a thick 19 row, the thick one is better, holds more oil.


:cheers:

1Cor10:23 05-27-2015 09:13 AM

There is definitely a thermostat in the Orange/Gold thermostatic sandwich plate from mishi. You can see the Black bolt running through the back - that's a thermostat with a spring inside...can visually inspect that it controls the channel. Although, I've been told that it will never fully close, always a trickle flow to prevent airlock.

RFB 05-27-2015 12:48 PM

Mishi Oil Cooler Update
 
Since we have had a couple of days of summer, I was able to briefly manage 200 degrees while stopped in traffic.
Still can't push it hard enough around civilians to get it hotter.

My set up has the License Plate dead center of the shark mouth, directly in front of the oil rad, to block it, and prevent cooling.
The plate comes off on the track for full airflow.

If I get my tires in time from Factory Tire I will be running the Gran Prix F1 track at Mosport on Thurs. and will report back the results.


:cheers:
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps2fd42ff1.jpg

wbradley 05-28-2015 12:31 PM

Anyone have experience with the CX Racing? It looks to be about $550.00 CDN$ including shipping and appears to be a 19 row. I dont mind assembling the hoses to save $300!

D_Thissen 05-28-2015 12:47 PM

Price looks reasonable, but their spelling isn't fantastic lol

wbradley 05-28-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2265323)
Price looks reasonable, but their spelling isn't fantastic lol

I might forgive them this one time. :thumbsup:

D_Thissen 05-28-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 2265332)
I might forgive them this one time. :thumbsup:

:lol:
To be honest, its a very simple device, so as long as they used quality materials, I wouldn't imagine there being any issues.

Mishimoto 05-28-2015 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFB (Post 2258293)
Thermostatic, but it refers to the coating, its not a thermostat. The quality of the machining, the braided hoses, misc. parts etc. and search for same bits and pieces of same hi quality on ones own, and convenience, justifies the price imho.

I hide in salt weather, but if I wintered my track car I would definitely put an oil thermostat in (looks better than a piece of cardboard).

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2258418)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFB (Post 2258644)
UUHHH-YES

That's what I thought also, but Mishi in U.S told BRZWORLD I got the one w/o the thermostat, but just the thermostatic coating of the sandwich plate.

I also did not go for the fan etc.

I saw the install of my other cooler, but not the Mishi, and after, I was to busy checking for leaks to look closely at the plate.

Maybe ! Goin out to look !

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFB (Post 2258789)
There are 2 kits for the FRS, mine is the one without the thermostat. The above link is generic Mishi plate not the FRS kits below .

http://www.mishimoto.com/subaru-brz-...er-kit-13.html

A phone inquiry to Mishi asking about the thermostat resulted in them saying "thermostatic refers to the coating". (Every corporation has idiots, was that one ? I don't know).

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2259064)
You definitely got their company idiot then... directly from the description on that link:

Based on the description of just the sandwich plate (which describes it as having a thermostat), the thermostatic kit definitely has a thermostat in it.

Plus, a thermostatic coating would be powdercoating, but those plates are definitely anodized.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Cor10:23 (Post 2263783)
There is definitely a thermostat in the Orange/Gold thermostatic sandwich plate from mishi. You can see the Black bolt running through the back - that's a thermostat with a spring inside...can visually inspect that it controls the channel. Although, I've been told that it will never fully close, always a trickle flow to prevent airlock.

Hey guys! Chiming in here to clear up any confusion in regards to our oil cooler kit. We do offer both a thermostatic and non-thermostatic oil cooler setup. This refers to the type of sandwich plate being used, not any coating included on the component. Confusion may have occurred due to the way we differentiate between our options, which is with the use of two different color anodized finishes. Our non-thermostatic plates are silver and our thermostatic units are gold. The thermostatic sandwich plate utilizes an internal thermostat to restrict oil flow until an appropriate operating temperature is reached. We recommend this for most vehicles seeing frequent road use and/or cool temperatures. Outright track vehicles should have no issue using our non-thermostatic kit.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions about this kit!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFB (Post 2261978)
I wouldn't, our cars run REALLY hot on the track, especially the big tracks.

Is this occurring with our kit installed?

Thanks
-John

RFB 05-28-2015 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mishimoto (Post 2265533)
Hey guys! Chiming in here to clear up any confusion in regards to our oil cooler kit. We do offer both a thermostatic and non-thermostatic oil cooler setup. This refers to the type of sandwich plate being used, not any coating included on the component. Confusion may have occurred due to the way we differentiate between our options, which is with the use of two different color anodized finishes. Our non-thermostatic plates are silver and our thermostatic units are gold. The thermostatic sandwich plate utilizes an internal thermostat to restrict oil flow until an appropriate operating temperature is reached. We recommend this for most vehicles seeing frequent road use and/or cool temperatures. Outright track vehicles should have no issue using our non-thermostatic kit.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions about this kit!



Is this occurring with our kit installed?

Thanks
-John



Just got back from the Formula 1 Gran Prix Track at Mosport.

Flogged the car hard, full day session. It was hot and humid.

While tracking, oil temps were generally cooler than sitting and idling in
traffic !

Second half of the day, got into serious WOT, lapping Porsches etc. (Surprised at the new Vette ! One cornered like us but faster and smoother !)

No Mishi - 270 on hot days and it stays at that temp !

With the Mishi rad, 220 several times, 224 once, but those highest temps only briefly, until the car moved faster, then the temp goes down immediately.


Worth every ruble ! :respekt:


http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps7608f69d.jpg


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