I'm a complete beginner. I've done drifting at PARC and Evergreen Speedway but never did grip racing. Here's my understanding:

- You gotta pay $220 for the HPDE driving school on Friday.
- Then, after having completed that driving school, I pay another $380 for Novice 2-day or $200 for a Novice 1 day

Or am I wrong, and it's $220 for the 22nd to 24th, comprehensive?

Assuming that sounds good, here's my question: how much seat time do I get in the driving school?

How much seat time do I get during the Novice 1-day? And is it competitive, like I'm racing against others on the track, or is it just a bunch of novices on the track doing their own thing?

EDIT: looks like 20 minutes of seat time for qualifying and 1 hour of seat time for competitive racing on Sat/Sun?

I believe everyone who will be attending will just be doing the HPDE. Which will be about 2 hours of track time.

If you wish to take part in the race, you should become familiar with this
http://www.icscc.com/references/comp_regs_2015.pdf

This may be presumptuous of me, but I doubt your car would meet the safety regulations for competitive wheel to wheel racing. Do you have...

Full roll cage?
Fire proof suit?
Kill switch?
Fire suppression system?
Willingness to accept the rubbing is racing?

Awesome thanks for the help. I've been wanting to do this since I bought this car.

Sweet, thanks for the help.

I have a willingness to accept that rubbing is racing, but that's all I have from that list :3

No problem!

As far as I know there isn't anyone in the PNW who has a 100% dedicated 86 race-car yet, but I'm sure once used prices get down to about the $10K range we'll see quite a few. :party0030:

$220 is for HPDE only. Race on Saturday and Sunday require an additional fee, and you must have a racing license. As a beginner you should register in group 1. TC generally runs 5 20min sessions for each group. Believe me you will be wasted when you're finished. HPDE is not competitive. Passing is only allowed in designated places on the track and only when the car being passed has given you a point by. It you haven't done this before you will on overload all day long. It require intense focus but is incredibly fun. Come out and play with us!

Cool, I'll sign up for HPDE, but the racing on Sat is most likely outta the question for now. Looking forward to meeting you guys!

For @sittinSideways

The ICSCC has a comprehensive novice program where candidates do the driver's school first and if the instructor approves them for the novice program they get their novice license and can race in novice races. After a minimum of 3 novice races, passing their exam and completing a little volunteer work (flaggin, pre-grid etc) they then upgrade their license and race with side by side with the fast guys. This novice system makes everyone safer on track and it creates better, faster, safer racers overall.

So if racing is something you want to pursue that may help.

Racing doesn't have to be expensive either. There's some good info in here about costs and they're not too bad:
Cost of racing thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49719


ORP is only a few weeks away and I'm pumped. I've never run it CCW before so I've been watching a lot of youtube video lately:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-SFmZsJMjg[/ame]

Thanks for the information! ORP looks like a great, safe track. I'm pretty pumped myself :)

OK, I am going for it. I will have to set up a hotel room nearby and head out on Thursday afternoon.


I wish I could be sure of the helmet, though, I don't want to get out there and find they are not available:(


Looking forward to meeting like-minded fellows... :D

Glad to hear you're going to give it a try. Don't worry about the helmet, my brother says they have over a dozen available. If worse comes to worse you can use mine since we are not in the same group. It's going to be a very fun day!

Thanks...I appreciate the reassurance...really looking forward to it!

Anyone have any advice on insurance...it looks like Lockton will not cover the event and Progressive certainly will not. What do you guys use?

I'd call Lockton directly and see what they have to say. Personally, I don't buy insurance for HPDEs and ORP is a pretty safe track without a lot of hard surfaces to hit (and thank god for that, I've been spit off twice), but you should do whatever makes you feel most comfortable for your situation.