Takes a certain person
 

Id just like to say i think it takes a certain person to appreciate the frs/brz.

I came from owning two mk6 gti's one was stage 2 and one was stage 3. Both fast as hell but it was lacking something. Now i own my frs and although its not as fast it has more character that i feel only some people apprectiate and dont understand

My car has been in the shop for the past two days getting a new fuel pump and and the idle dip fixed and i was using my uncles 2010 gt500. Although it has headers straight pipes 2.8 kenne bell supercharger and makes 698rwhp, it feels heavy. At high speeds the car feels like its off the ground, i cant turn for shit and it just feels like a boat. That being said the shelby is still my most favorite car in the world especially his cause its insanely fast and gets compliments and looks all day.

THAT BEING SAID. I still rather drive my frs everyday over that just cause the frs has a lot more then any car can offer and i think only a few people can understand what im trying to explain

I approve of your post OP.

When I drive other cars now, they all feel like they have been injected with varying doses of Novacaine. Numb and disconnected.

Of course I mean run-of-the-mill cars, not high-end sports or supercars.

^what he said
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in for yet another circle jerk

I've always said owning a frs will change your perspective on how a car should perform and respond

agreed 100%. If its not for you, that's fine, but don't bash the car for being slow. It just doesn't need 800hp to be fun. Hell it doesn't even need 300.

Don't listen to @wheelhaus.

He's not himself when he's hungry. :P

lol I did skip lunch

I agree with these posts.

And if you can't enjoy a twin at stock power, adding power still won't be enough for you.

perma-ban.

Is this a back handed compliment? Are you saying the twins are run of the mill cars?

Agreed, it needs 250hp ;) :thumbsup:

It's a car designed by Japanese and (probably, you never know) for Japanese. I am Asian so I can definitely appreciate the work (because we tend to be smaller in size :cry:). However we live in a world where products are sold worldwide, and faced different point of view from different culture. This car received far better reviews in Asia than it did in the states, because again, its a small car, its nimble, and you don't have many big wide straight roads in Asia. I can understand that people in the states will compare the car to Mustang, but that's not the right question to ask in Asia because people know they are two completely different things and were designed for different purposes.

Touché... I knew some was gonna chime in with something like this! I'm at 5500ft altitude so I don't even know what the 86 is supposed to feel like. That said, adding grip makes the car shine, even with the 20% power I don't have access to. I'm adding a hypocritical SC in the not too terribly distant future for shits and giggles. Oh well.

Holy crap! How the hell did this turn into a more HP thread so fast??
I believe it is a record.

My mustang always got compliments for its condition and it's age. "Wow that's clean, what year is that?" etc.

I've had my FR-S less than 24 hours and I've had 2 people come up to me and ask me, simply, what the hell is it. Then proceed to tell me it looks damn good. I'm attracting different types of people too. If they know about it, they KNOW about it, and appreciate it, asking how it drives, etc. Other people are simply curious because in my area, a town of over 40,000, there's literally only one other one that I know of around here, and it's lava orange.

It's that 'X' factor - fun factor

You have to drive it to "GET IT"!! It's so fun to tool around in at low or high speeds. I can't say the the same for a ton of so called sports cars.

No. Is that a back handed compliment? Insinuating I would buy a run of the mill car? :iono: :bellyroll:

It's fine with 200 btw.

When the OP indirectly/directly compared it to a 698rwhp Mustang...

Im not trying to compare. The mustang is fast yea i drove it all day yesterday and did 150mph but it lacks something the frs doesnt have. I just picked up my frs from the service department and the 5 minute ride home was better then driving the shelby all day long yesterday. Both cars are amazing im just stating that most people that look at the frs and brz just dont get it

Car is just mad fun

Ahhhh yes , I see now!

This, until you've driven it you probably won't understand it.
As far as power goes the stock output is more than enough for the car. I put headers on just recently but mostly for the sound (UEL rumble ftw) but the little bump in power was addictive, so I tried an OFT tune and then a few days later switched to E85. The car was a blast before, definitely a 10/10 and I enjoyed all 15k miles on stock power but that extra maybe 30hp just cranked it up to 11/10

yes, it does. usually a strikingly handsome or beautiful person, with great taste and superb intelligence

Or ... us guys on here one or the other.

I was trying to figure out how to add strikethrough to the text... was gonna do that the last part of what I said, and reason for editing was squadrogue

Tada sums it up... not a high performance car but a sports car with driver focus. If you enjoy the art of driving, this car is for you.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAiXr7eVfh0"]Toyota 86 - The True Thrill Of a Sports Cars - YouTube[/ame]

Am I too late for the circlejerk?

You need to pass the tryout

Loads of room just pull up a seat.
Pretty much the same as the two or three hundred before it though. Only difference is a few new faces that haven't hashed the topic to death already.

stage 2...stage 3... what does that even mean. I never understood why people referenced their upgrades in stages...

Simple marketing for people who don't want to worry about the technical stuff. Which is probably best for some people.

Gti had tunes which label them in power output stage 2 was 260whp and stage 3 was 360whp+

Its like Dragon Ball Z, when Goku in super sayian state and push beyond his power to be a super sayian 3. I like to think that way

Much better then saying version:

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Another mk6 GTI owner here. Own them both at the moment. The GTI is practical, refined and torquey, but only the FR-S puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.

Also, some specific platform communities kind of adopt certain terminology as standard, I saw this a lot in the STi community as well. Stage 1 was basically just a tune. Stage 2 was a tune with turboback exhaust. Stage 3 was bigger turbo and other bolt ons.

It comes from people like Cosworth. A lot of aftermarket companies do this... it's just a simple way to categorize tiers of performance.

I don't know ANY enthusiasts in real life who talk about their mods in "stages"...

It takes a special kind of person (Vw crowd) to describe their car by it's "stage". Do you realize that it conveys almost no information whatsoever?

Much like the State of the Union Address.