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hmong337 04-07-2015 04:24 AM

Should I get my HPFP replaced?
 
I'm nearing the end of my warranty. I can have the hpfp replaced if I choose to. Should I go ahead and replace it while it's free or screw it- it won't make any difference and the dealer can possible fubar my car while they're in there...?

irucremmi 04-07-2015 04:44 AM

I'd say don't fix what's not broken. Been driving with crickets for 2 years 46k miles and no problems, and I am not aware of them anymore or maybe they are gone : )


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Ultramaroon 04-07-2015 05:53 AM

No.

jlugo711 04-07-2015 06:35 AM

Wouldn't worry about it too much. There's nothing wrong with the fuel pump, why risk something going wrong?

Mad1723 04-07-2015 08:50 AM

Embrace the crickets!

dentalprodigy 04-07-2015 09:15 AM

I'll share another viewpoint. I knew that there was a good possibility the crickets wouldn't be fixed with hpfp replacement but I did it anyway because I'd rather have the “latest part " in the car for future warranty purposes.

That might change things since your warranty is about to expire anyways. If I was in your situation I'd get it replaced.

NWFRS 04-07-2015 10:48 AM

Yes.

Probably.

Maybe.

Maybe not.

Probably not.

No.

AznBRZer 04-07-2015 10:51 AM

If it isn't knocking like a woodpecker, I wouldn't bother unless you have full 1000% confidence that they won't fuck it up. The only reason I got mine swapped was because of woodpeckers and even then, I regret it or at the very least regret that I had it done where I did.

Defuser 04-07-2015 10:51 AM

Why not? A free, new pump. If they screw up something in the process (doubtful unless your dealer's service dept sucks) they will have to fix that.

tyrantcf 04-07-2015 10:59 AM

One more for no.

JonAvalon 04-07-2015 11:01 AM

I'm currently debating it. Mine has already been replaced early last year. My service adviser in the fall said to check back early 2015 because there was suppose to be another revision. He said to come back before 36K miles regardless if I wanted another repalcement, which I am closing in on. But so far this year it hasn't been that big of a annoyance, I think I'm used to it now and just joke about it every time.

MokSpeed 04-07-2015 11:46 AM

If you don't have crickets then I really see no point. At first I was hesitant to get mine replaced since I was under the impression that the crickets would just come back. However, ever since I got my new HPFP in 15,000 miles ago they have never come back (knock on wood!). The choice really is entirely yours.

Tcoat 04-07-2015 11:56 AM

In a way it may be worth it just to have it on record. There were at least a couple of guys that got new ones even out of warranty (buried in one of the 10 million cricket threads someplace) because the latest version was supposed to stop the crickets (it didn't but that is beside the point). If a real fix ever shows up and your dealer will play ball they just may go for it since you had it changed once already.

N1rve 04-07-2015 12:30 PM

If the dealer is known for good work, I would get it done because you will have a new HPFP with less mileage and wear and tear.

Also, if you changed it once and it's on record, you can probably ask for the new revision if it ever gets fixed.

SubaruLifer 04-07-2015 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defuser (Post 2202348)
Why not? A free, new pump. If they screw up something in the process (doubtful unless your dealer's service dept sucks) they will have to fix that.

Dealer service departments that suck seem to be more common than ones that are good.

I vote no. Avoid the dealer at all costs. Too many bad experiences for me, across multiple dealers.

hmong337 04-07-2015 01:50 PM

Both sides have very valid points.

Yes I have crickets. Had them since 2500kms. They never really bothered me much if at all. Just learned to deal with it. But it does suck that my first brand new car sounds worse than the 1995 beater Honda Civic it replaced. My car is just over 56000kms and the warranty expires at 60000kms. Decisions decisions... like one person said, the hard part is finding a good service department. The dealer I serviced with couldn't even get my oil changes right!!!

Ultramaroon 04-07-2015 02:02 PM

Tony's point about having it on record swayed me a little. I've never had a single professional service experience that has worked out well. Literally every single time someone over-torqued something, left something off. Misdiagnosed the problem. Each time I went against my instinct and it has bitten me in the ass.

If it helps to clarify my argument against replacement, if mine ever failed. I would find a perfectly good chirpy used one and replace it myself. That's just me.

I do feel your pain.

Dadhawk 04-07-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2202163)
I'm nearing the end of my warranty. I can have the hpfp replaced if I choose to. Should I go ahead and replace it while it's free or screw it- it won't make any difference and the dealer can possible fubar my car while they're in there...?

I did it at @57,000 miles, only because that means I reset the clock on the hpfp. I couldn't tell you if I did or did not have crickets, but apparently the dealership thought I did enough to cover it.

I would say its up to you. I keep a car until the bitter end so for me it made sense. If I was going to trade it in in the next couple of years, I wouldn't have bothered.

Turbo95eg6 04-07-2015 03:13 PM

That's like asking if you should wash and detail your car even if there's a rainstorm coming tomorrow.

zc06_kisstherain 04-07-2015 03:31 PM

another vote of NO

dont like dealer touching my car and possibility of giving me more problem

CatDaddysBBQ 04-07-2015 03:38 PM

Dealer swapped mine twice. Made zero difference (crickets went away for 2-7 days each time, MAX).

I didn't even think about having them in there (needlessly) and possibly screwing something up while they were doing it. Nothing seems to have happened, but if it did?

I'd say hold off - almost nobody actually has a defective HPFP, just let your roll.

hmong337 04-07-2015 04:01 PM

My car runs great except for the odd hard start. I am swaying towards just keeping what I have. The car is essentially problem free. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is the old saying. But I do like the thought of resetting the clock for a new pump on the dealer's dime because I plan to keep this car till the wheels fall off.

KalbiCool88 04-07-2015 06:05 PM

Is it possible to keep the "defective" fp? For iuno, as a "keepsake"? Lol.

Braces 04-07-2015 07:25 PM

Here's the problem with this inquiry. If the fuel pump is BAD as diagnosed by the dealership .... then it should be replaced. The fuel pump is either faulty or not faulty. Were you told that the fuel pump needed replacement? Or did you hear it HERE that it needed replacement?

hmong337 04-07-2015 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braces (Post 2203124)
Here's the problem with this inquiry. If the fuel pump is BAD as diagnosed by the dealership .... then it should be replaced. The fuel pump is either faulty or not faulty. Were you told that the fuel pump needed replacement? Or did you hear it HERE that it needed replacement?

Briefly talked with a service advisor and mentioned that my car chirps. They said they will replace it if still under warranty. Now the ball is in my end.

Dadhawk 04-08-2015 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braces (Post 2203124)
Here's the problem with this inquiry. If the fuel pump is BAD as diagnosed by the dealership .... then it should be replaced. The fuel pump is either faulty or not faulty. Were you told that the fuel pump needed replacement? Or did you hear it HERE that it needed replacement?

Technically, its not bad or faulty, just noisy. I've not seen any reports of actual mechanical failures , and I suspect the pump would run through an average service life with "real" issues.


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