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Hanakuso 06-12-2012 03:50 PM

Sachs coilover teaser pic
 
Found this picture on the ASM blog for the 86. No specs given but Sachs known to be on the higher/highest end.

I'm wondering if this is a sign that ASM will start making parts for the 86/BRZ. For people that don't know, ASM makes some of the highest quality parts for S2Ks and a few other cars (Mini, 350z, etc). The downside is the price is very high.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...33863398_n.jpg

mines13 06-12-2012 04:29 PM

These will be excellent without question. But yes, you will pay for said quality.

old greg 06-12-2012 04:35 PM

:drool:

Alex@R.A.D. 06-12-2012 05:03 PM

whoa?!? sachs for real? that is going to be some serious dinero... but im sure theyll be backing it up with a high quality part.

mines13 06-12-2012 05:17 PM

The adjuster is in an amazingly accessible location as well. These were engineered by people who knew that you will have to actually use them.

Alex@R.A.D. 06-12-2012 05:18 PM

did you get yours yet Adam? got a red one coming for me in a few days :)

cyde01 06-12-2012 06:30 PM

link to page? tried looking for it on the blog but couldn't find it.

Hanakuso 06-12-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 254876)
link to page? tried looking for it on the blog but couldn't find it.

Sorry it wasn't there blog, it's on there facebook page.

mines13 06-12-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex@R.A.D. (Post 254724)
did you get yours yet Adam? got a red one coming for me in a few days :)

I'll have my Argento at the end the month.

cyde01 06-13-2012 03:25 PM

i read the facebook post. it says they're gonna put sachs ft-86 coilovers on a cr-z. in fact, this blog post makes it sound like they're not gonna make any parts for the fr-s/brz.
http://autobacs-asm.jp/blog/asm/inde...o=2090#myu2090

in the post kanayama-san says he came away with a very positive impression of the car, yet was very disappointed with the low quality interior and exterior design for cost cutting, comparing it unfavorably to similarly priced competitors such as the mini, fiat 500 and audi a1. he said asm would not buy a gt86 because it was so surprisingly well balanced that there was nothing he wanted to tune on the car. he feels like all you would need is a saclam exhaust (which they're already making without asm's help), ap racing brakes and pads, drexler lsd, some asm karo mats and you'd be done.

this is just my interpretation but i think kanayama-san has an anti-toyota bias. his parts are premium products and i think he is only interested in a certain level of premium cars, the low cost entry level aspect of the gt86 apparently put him off. quite disappointing i must say as asm makes some of the best stuff.

Hanakuso 06-14-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 256319)
i read the facebook post. it says they're gonna put sachs ft-86 coilovers on a cr-z. in fact, this blog post makes it sound like they're not gonna make any parts for the fr-s/brz.
http://autobacs-asm.jp/blog/asm/inde...o=2090#myu2090

in the post kanayama-san says he came away with a very positive impression of the car, yet was very disappointed with the low quality interior and exterior design for cost cutting, comparing it unfavorably to similarly priced competitors such as the mini, fiat 500 and audi a1. he said asm would not buy a gt86 because it was so surprisingly well balanced that there was nothing he wanted to tune on the car. he feels like all you would need is a saclam exhaust (which they're already making without asm's help), ap racing brakes and pads, drexler lsd, some asm karo mats and you'd be done.

this is just my interpretation but i think kanayama-san has an anti-toyota bias. his parts are premium products and i think he is only interested in a certain level of premium cars, the low cost entry level aspect of the gt86 apparently put him off. quite disappointing i must say as asm makes some of the best stuff.

Yeah I noticed the CR-Z part, but I find it weird because it's a FT86 model, which means it should fit on the FT86 right?

I find what I bolded hard to believe. If you think about the S2000 it's also a very balanced sports car and they basically has products for each part of the car. Maybe Kanayama doesn't think there is a market for premium parts for a low cost car

cyde01 06-14-2012 03:22 PM

yeah i'm sure the sachs will fit the ft86 as it says it's an ft86 model, but asm probably had no part in the development of the sachs ft86 coilover as they're set on converting it into a cr-z coilover.

i find the bold hard to believe too but that's exactly what kanayama-san wrote, verbatim. i agree about the s2000 being also balanced, which is why i think he's just biased.

Hanakuso 06-14-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 258235)
yeah i'm sure the sachs will fit the ft86, but asm probably had no part in the development of the sachs ft86 coilover as they're set on converting it into a cr-z coilover.

i find the bold hard to believe too but that's exactly what kanayama-san wrote, verbatim. i agree about the s2000 being also balanced, which is why i think he's just biased.

Yeah I dont understand his reasoning other then being against Toyota or there's no market for quality part on a cheap car. He found the 86 to be have low quality design of the exterior/interior. Does he realize the parts he makes are extremely high quality and enhances the original parts..

Ro_Ja 03-22-2014 04:44 PM

Reviving this age old thread since I found that there’s a Sachs suspension for the FR-S currently available. However, there’s no price or picture and a Google search of the part number yields nothing useful. I’m curious if anyone else might have more information.

Part number is 841500 000299

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3679/...33fabe5e_b.jpg


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