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Levi 10-23-2013 11:09 AM

Tokyo 2013: Honda S660 Concept
 
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Specs
3 Cylinder Turbocharged Petrol Engine
660 ccm (1,000 ccm for export?)
64 PS (100 PS for export?)
~900 kg

DarthNads 10-23-2013 12:15 PM

Rear tail light is very reminiscent of the FT-86 concept... Rest of the car is FUGLY.

sklimo 10-23-2013 12:29 PM

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campy 10-23-2013 12:33 PM

crz convertible?

Since it has the S### badging, I wonder if it'll be their rwd 86-equivalent. And I love that interior, it really looks like a jet fighter cockpit lol

dem00n 10-23-2013 12:51 PM

Interior is awesome...rest of it is uh...okay?

ZDan 10-23-2013 01:09 PM

MR, I presume? If so, very interested...

Hanakuso 10-23-2013 01:14 PM

Looks more like the Beat then any of the S models

reni 10-23-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 1288166)
Looks more like the Beat then any of the S models

Looks like it WAS beat.... with the ugly stick

userjack6880 10-23-2013 01:24 PM

Like any concept cars, it'll probably be toned down for the production model. Just look at the difference between the FT-86 and the Toyota 86.

It may also be opinion, but I like the way it looks, and can imaging the production model actually looking pretty sharp.

bestwheelbase 10-23-2013 04:27 PM

Del Sol. Fuck yea.

ohayo 10-23-2013 04:53 PM

definitely the new honda beat. however what made the beat, along with cars like the cappuccino, so damn fun was that it was so light weight; i dont see any of the japanese companies going the route of rwd k cars again =(


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Originally Posted by bestwheelbase (Post 1288735)
Del Sol. Fuck yea.

hahaha :thumbsup:

bestwheelbase 10-23-2013 05:06 PM

Just yesterday I saw a woman and her child getting into a Del Sol at the grocery store. Really, those cars were great. The back window that goes down. It was unique in the market!

Rampage 10-23-2013 05:11 PM

Very futuristic looking but kind of soulless styling in my opinion. Looks to be paddle shifted only? FWD? RWD? Front engine? Mid-engine? Hybrid? I am not sure what I am looking at.

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Honda could pitch a production version of the S660 as a Beat successor, or just as a fuel-efficient sports car that emphasizes handling over acceleration.
That won't make a lot of people on here happy.

M-17 10-23-2013 05:28 PM

This is what I dug up from Edmunds.

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The Honda S660 Concept hints at the new face of Honda as the automaker rolls out its lineup for the 2013 Tokyo Auto Show.

The S660 Concept, a minicar with a 0.66-liter engine, is designed with the Japan market in mind.

It features the so-called "Solid Wing Face," where the headlights merge with the grille.

Honda calls the concept "an open-top sports-type mini vehicle." The S660 Concept bears a striking resemblance to the Honda EV-STER Concept that debuted at the 2011 Tokyo Auto Show. However, the latest concept features a traditional steering wheel, while the EV-STER sported twin joysticks.

The new Honda concept has been likened to the Honda Beat minicar as well, which featured a two-seat setup and side vents.

The upcoming Tokyo auto show will also be the setting for the world debut of the Honda N-WGN, the fourth model in the N Series of mini vehicles. The N Series is sold in Japan.

Honda also will display a version of the NSX sports car concept. U.S. consumers will probably do a double-take when they see the photos of the NSX, since it is wearing a Honda — not an Acura — badge. It is badged as a Honda in Japan because the Acura brand is not sold there.

Edmunds says: There is some media speculation that Honda may bring a version of the S660 Concept to the U.S., but with a bigger engine.

chulooz 10-23-2013 05:42 PM

Only acceptable part is the interior.

Trojan_SC 10-23-2013 06:53 PM

Funny thought. Now the Acura NSX is the original and the Honda NSX is the rebadged model.

enouf 10-23-2013 06:56 PM

Rear is not bad, rest of the car needs a facelift. The 660cc turbo 3 cyclinder made me laugh. May be a 1 litre for other markets though :p

http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...023-2w128.html

serialk11r 10-23-2013 08:01 PM

Hey, if it's a turbo motorcycle engine I'm all for it :D

Okay in all seriousness, doesn't look bad at all, the front needs some de-SUV-ification but I like how it looks. Now just stretch the tail and front a bit to make it MR2 sized and they'll be good to go.

zygrene 10-23-2013 08:51 PM

Looks really cool and fun to drive, but the MSRP needs to be low (significantly lower than FR-S) for such a small, underpowered car with a Honda badge, and it NEEDS a manual transmission. If even uber-entry-level RWD sports cars like this come with mandatory paddles I will commit seppuku. Please, Honda, for the love of all that is good in this world, give us 3 pedals and a stick.

n2oinferno 10-24-2013 04:02 PM

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013...-concept-39583

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New mid-engined mini-coupe could be the first of three all-new Honda sports cars
Back in 1991, Honda launched a radical 660cc mid-engined mini-car called the Beat. Built exclusively for the Japanese domestic market, it was the last car that company founder Soichiro Honda green-lighted for production before he passed away.

The Pininfarina-penned Kei-car (called ‘kei’ in Japan because of the engine size) was powered by a 660cc three-cylinder engine generating around 48kW. And yes, it was rear-wheel drive.

Now, some 22 years on, Honda is revisiting that small, mid-engined combination again with this sharp-looking S660 Concept slated for a world premiere at the Tokyo motor show in late November.

Only this time, Japan’s number three car-maker is targeting a global market.

Honda has a rich heritage when it comes to small engine capacity sports cars. The company started experimenting with tiny coupes like the 360cc S360 in 1962 and the S500 in 1963 -- around the time that the Honda-owned Suzuka circuit opened and the company started grand prix racing.

The last ‘S’ series sports car of that early era was the S800 in 1966. To celebrate its 50th anniversary in 1999, Honda brought back the ‘S’ prefix with the high-revving S2000 that finally went out of production in 2009.

By the time 2010 came around, Honda had already started designing its next ‘S’ series coupe, a concept that debuted at the 2011 Tokyo show called EV-Ster. Those six letters referred to its all-electric powertrain incorporating two motors driving the rear wheels.

Given the EV-Ster’s positive feedback at Tokyo, it is no wonder then that the S660 Concept we’ll see this year is almost identical to the original concept of two years ago.

In fact, first impressions are telling. The EV-Ster’s exaggerated grille design, edgy bonnet and rear lighting scheme have been replaced by an exterior that can only be called ‘near-production.’

Cornering senior designer Ryo Sugiura at the preview in central Tokyo, we learn that the S660 will land in showrooms by 2015 pretty much as is. That’s good, because we think it’s a real looker.

“The only addition will be a fully retractable roof which you don’t see on the concept,” he said. “Oh, one other thing -- we put more angle on the windscreen, that is, we laid it down more because we felt that an upright windscreen is old-fashioned,” says Sugiura, who admits his favourite cars are the Ferrari Dino 246 and the Alfa Romeo Tipo 33.

However, with the knowledge that electric cars are struggling to find their niche in virtually every global market, Honda opted for a turbocharged 660cc petrol engine to power the S660.

That should bode well for this mini sports car, because apart from its almost perfect 50/50 front/rear weight distribution, and a 48kW-plus engine, the coupe also gets a seven-speed CVT gearbox with paddles for manual shifting.

The engine expected to power the production S660 will be a tuned version of the engine in Honda’s popular N-One mini-car, which employs a turbocharged petrol triple generating 48kW at 6000rpm and 104Nm of torque at 2600rpm.

However, one source close to Honda says the company is currently evaluating engines for export models and may settle on a turbocharged 1.0-litre unit which should produce upwards of 75kW.

In a mini-car that tips the scales between 850 and 900kg, that would give the S660 some serious attitude where it counts.

Inside, a compact squarish steering wheel is designed to give drivers more knee room, while the cream-coloured driver's seat trim is meant to signify a driver-focused cockpit design.

But as designer Sugiura adds, “any export version, and we are not saying we have one yet, would have to undergo some major body modifications like the impact-absorbing ‘5mph bumpers’ required for the US market, as well as wider fenders and wheel-arches for larger tyres.”

Interestingly, the S660 is actually part of a bigger picture for Honda -- a picture we are hearing involves three mid-engined sports cars and a reference to the “third brother” of a mid-engined trio that Honda bosses are currently evaluating.

That new coupe, says one Honda engineer, could be similar in size and price to the Toyota 86. That’s good news because without the S2000, Honda certainly needs a compact sports car to slot in between the new NSX and the S660.

In the same way that Honda launched a range of sports cars when it entered Formula One back in the early 1960s, it is looking more like a similar scenario with a new range of sports cars destined to start landing in showrooms about the time Honda teams up with McLaren to return to F1 in 2015.
I like it!

TylerLieberman 10-24-2013 05:53 PM

Looks like poop. Scrap it and start over!

mark0006 03-24-2015 03:42 AM

Honda S660 Roadster Spied Undisguised
 
Honda S660 Roadster Spied Undisguised

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From the article:
As evidenced by these photos shot at a Japanese port, Honda is ready to ship the production 2015 S660 to dealers across the country.

6 pictures and full article

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Tgionet 03-24-2015 03:46 AM

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funwheeldrive 03-24-2015 03:49 AM

It looks like an aborted CRZ.

DAEMANO 03-24-2015 03:54 AM

Civic roadster, now there's something no one asked for. There's your new S2k.

mark0006 03-24-2015 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2182322)
It looks like an aborted CRZ.

Can't argue with that. :thumbup:

rxlynn 03-24-2015 07:47 AM

It looked ok from the front, but then I looked at the back...

themadscientist 03-24-2015 08:06 AM

Sorry, I dig it. Then again, I liked the Beat too, which is what this replaces, NOT the S2000.

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Old.

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six-speed manual turning the rear wheels.
Thank you, Honda. :w00t:

raven1231 03-24-2015 09:14 AM

Doesnt look good but also doesnt look any worse than the new civic type r...

ZDan 03-24-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2182323)
Civic roadster, now there's something no one asked for. There's your new S2k.

Since when are Civics mid-engined/rwd? Been a LONG time since a Civic has weighed 2000 lb. as well.

It doesn't look all that great, but I would buy one of these in a second if it came to the U.S. (it won't).

hmong337 03-24-2015 10:35 AM

This is "Kei" car size, no? S660 in reference to 660cc Kei engine regulation size?

Edit: nevermind, read the article and it certainly appears to be a Honda Beat revival.

reni 03-24-2015 11:01 AM

An all new RWD kei roadster sounds great in theory, it's just disappointing how ugly this is.

Tcoat 03-24-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxlynn (Post 2182389)
It looked ok from the front, but then I looked at the back...

I am with you!
Looking at the front pic and thinking "geez guys that isn't so bad".
Then went to the link and saw the back, screamed in horror and closed the tab!

N_A 03-24-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2182404)
Sorry, I dig it. Then again, I liked the Beat too, which is what this replaces, NOT the S2000.


Thank you, Honda. :w00t:

I was going to say the same thing. I dig it. I was a fan of the Beat growing up and this thing looks pretty cool.

Dadhawk 03-24-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxlynn (Post 2182389)
It looked ok from the front, but then I looked at the back...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2182539)
I am with you!
Looking at the front pic and thinking "geez guys that isn't so bad".
Then went to the link and saw the back, screamed in horror and closed the tab!

I'd have to see it with the top down to make a final judgment, it has obviously been designed for top down viewing. Even so, they couldn't have made those "pods" in the back look any more stuck on if they had intentionally tried to.

Sideways&Smiling 03-24-2015 01:42 PM

Not attractive, but I like the idea of it. Hope a version with a bigger engine comes to the US.

53Driver 03-24-2015 02:03 PM

I really wish Honda had kept the S2000 line open. Sigh.

Ashikabi 03-24-2015 02:34 PM

This thing looks good. Big Honda fan myself. Probably super fun to drive

rice_classic 03-24-2015 03:16 PM

Small/underpowered cars a lot of fun to race and way more affordable to race too.

However, 60hp and a CVT makes baby jesus cry.

They mentioned a possible S1000 with 1.0L Turbo and 100hp and a MT. Now that's more like it. Strip it, cage it, race it. :)

Ashikabi 03-24-2015 03:23 PM

Can you strip a kei car? They are just glorified gokarts after all


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