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bofa 03-18-2015 01:26 PM

Scion iA sedan teaser
 
http://www.scioniaclub.com/index.php...-show-debut.1/

Scion iA sedan was just teased. It's going to be shown in NY show.. kind of looks like an EvoX from this teaser

MokSpeed 03-18-2015 01:38 PM

I see some Focus and Evo X inspiration there. Interested to see the entire car.

strat61caster 03-18-2015 01:53 PM

Was about to joke about the fact that Toyota has produced exactly one car with notable 'driving dynamics' in the last decade: the LFA. The FR-S is produced by Subaru after all and the MR2 and Celica were designed 15 years ago and ceased production 9 years ago.

This will continue to be true as the iA is supposedly born from partnership with Mazda and based off the Mazda2:

http://jalopnik.com/the-scion-ia-sed...s-a-1692117826

rice_classic 03-18-2015 01:58 PM

Would rather Mazda.

DAEMANO 03-18-2015 02:16 PM

Mazda love spillin over from the Miata thread ;)

Really though, I think everyone is hoping that the iA gets sports sedan reflexes on a budget (even though FWD). Maybe, just maybe Toyota really does has a viable plan to rebuild Scion.

NemesisPrime909 03-18-2015 03:25 PM

people seem to be getting up in arms about Toyota's joint ventures but don't even bat an eye when nearly EVERY small car in Europe is a VW underneath.

MokSpeed 03-18-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2174123)
The FR-S is produced by Subaru after all and the MR2 and Celica were designed 15 years ago and ceased production 9 years ago.


Produced. Not designed by Subaru.

NemesisPrime909 03-18-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2174123)
Was about to joke about the fact that Toyota has produced exactly one car with notable 'driving dynamics' in the last decade: the LFA. The FR-S is produced by Subaru after all and the MR2 and Celica were designed 15 years ago and ceased production 9 years ago.

This will continue to be true as the iA is supposedly born from partnership with Mazda and based off the Mazda2:

http://jalopnik.com/the-scion-ia-sed...s-a-1692117826

Strat...

Strat...

Homie, Strat, for your sake, mine, and everyone else's on this forum, DO NOT bring that debate up.

That debate is a variable pandora's box that can cause an entire thread to implode in on itself in the most violent way.

Flaming, irrational behavior, incoherent babbling, are just some of the ways it will happen.

so save us all and leave it at "joint venture"

no one can argue with that.

strat61caster 03-18-2015 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisPrime909 (Post 2174293)
people seem to be getting up in arms about Toyota's joint ventures but don't even bat an eye when nearly EVERY small car in Europe is a VW underneath.

wut

Far as I'm concerned I'm glad Toyota is taking lessons, maybe someday they'll develop a fun car on their own, it's been 15 years since they developed an affordable truly great handling car on their own with the MR-S.

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 2174375)
Produced. Not designed by Subaru.

I'll do Nemesis a favor and leave it at this.
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The strut-front and multilink-rear suspensions have been adapted from the Impreza, and both cars have the same electrically assisted steering.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-around-page-2

NWFRS 03-18-2015 11:17 PM

What was this thread about?

Oh yeah! The new Scion sedan!

I'm just thankful that Scion appears to be going strong still in North America. It's hard to not see Saturn parallels. I feel like every new model legitimizes the marque a little more.

BRZPDX 03-19-2015 01:38 AM

I think the Miata is better. can we compare it with the same trim levels so its poles to apples?

rice_classic 03-19-2015 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BRZPDX (Post 2175319)
can we compare it with the same trim levels so its poles to apples?

I think we should leave the Polish out of this.

1GiantTurtle 03-19-2015 04:21 AM

this car will probably be axed quicker than the matrix:laughabove:

funwheeldrive 03-19-2015 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 1GiantTurtle (Post 2175419)
this car will probably be axed quicker than the matrix:laughabove:

The matrix was produced for 10 years in America. That's probably longer than the frs will last

reni 03-19-2015 06:36 AM

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The Scion iA sedan will use the Mazda2 platform and its 1.5-liter SkyActiv inline four-cylinder engine.
I'd rather just have a Mazda2 :/

themadscientist 03-19-2015 06:51 AM

Dear Toyota, did all your designers die in a freak accident? Build your own cars, you losers.

NemesisPrime909 03-19-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2175458)
Dear Toyota, did all your designers die in a freak accident? Build your own cars, you losers.

Reminder: Nearly every small car in Europe is a VW underneath.

also Engineering and R&D cost money and despite being one of the largest firms in the market, Toyota would rather split the cost than fund it solo.

Just the way it is right now.

Sigh-on-Rice 03-19-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2174123)
Was about to joke about the fact that Toyota has produced exactly one car with notable 'driving dynamics' in the last decade: the LFA.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LFA"]Lexus LFA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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Unlike the IS F's 2UR-GSE, Yamaha co-developed the entire engine, and not just the cylinder heads.

strat61caster 03-19-2015 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisPrime909 (Post 2175962)
Reminder: Nearly every small car in Europe is a VW underneath.

I just watched the Top Gear episode you stole this sound-byte from.

:cheers:

Poodles 03-20-2015 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 2176395)



Keep in mind Yamaha has been building engines for Toyota for about 50 years. They also own quite a bit of Yamaha (much like they own quite a bit of Subaru).


Back on subject, not really digging the look of this car...

funwheeldrive 03-21-2015 12:56 AM

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Back on subject, not really digging the look of this car...

Agreed. The mazda2 is one of my favorite small cars. I think it will be hard to top it.

chaoskaze 03-21-2015 05:25 AM

looks like a reskined Toyota Aygo in Asia/Europe ( Which is also a Citroen C1/Peugeot 108)

GhostRai 03-23-2015 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 1GiantTurtle (Post 2175419)
this car will probably be axed quicker than the matrix:laughabove:

It did get axed? I never noticed... It must not be a popular car then.

On a serious note, it should be more popular than the iQ. Small compact sedans seem to do okay, but the small city car..nope

1GiantTurtle 03-23-2015 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GhostRai (Post 2180653)
It did get axed? I never noticed... It must not be a popular car then.

On a serious note, it should be more popular than the iQ. Small compact sedans seem to do okay, but the small city car..nope


The matrix cost too much for what it is,
venza is getting the boot too, not going to see a 2016, Being slotted between rav4 and the highlander with only a few hundred dollar difference didn't seem to make sense. to the majority.

zigzagz94 03-26-2015 10:37 PM

http://www.leftlanenews.com/scion-ia.html





everything except the front looks just like a mazda which isn't really a bad thing

chaoskaze 03-27-2015 06:08 AM

^ true.... But why would you pick a scion over Mazda? For real. XD

funwheeldrive 03-27-2015 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2187227)
^ true.... But why would you pick a scion over Mazda? For real. XD

Same reason I picked a Scion over a Subaru. :thumbup:

DantKR 03-27-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2187228)
Same reason I picked a Scion over a Subaru. :thumbup:

Because you can!

What more reason for ANYTHING is there?

HunterGreene 03-27-2015 03:39 PM

Scion iA Spyed. Proof that Toyota Has Given Up on Scion
 
I saw this and...well, I have no words. Well, other than "Blah." And "Can't believe Scion is going to bring this boring meh-box to showrooms." Ok, so I have some words. Scion used to be avant-guard, head turning (for either good or bad reasons), and try to design in a way that would spark conversation. This carries none of that legacy. What's your verdict?

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...py-photos.html

http://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-con...py-Photo-2.jpg

http://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-con...py-Photo-6.jpg

http://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-con...py-Photo-4.jpg

I am just disappointed. :( That frown on the front fascia is well-deserved.

tahdizzle 03-27-2015 03:41 PM

Looks like a Hyundai Elantra IMO

http://www.2015newcarreviews.com/wp-...lantra-gls.jpg

Tcoat 03-27-2015 03:48 PM

OHHHHH when do they come out
Was a huge fan of the Pontiac Sunfire and that has almost as much style and class.

Dimman 03-27-2015 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2187851)
OHHHHH when do they come out
Was a huge fan of the Pontiac Sunfire and that has almost as much style and class.

You just overloaded my sarcasm detector, Tcoat.

Now I'm going to be confused all over the internet until I get a new one.

dirtymax 03-27-2015 03:54 PM

Thats crazy ugly. Who in their right mind at scion would think this will sell unless you can buy it at Dollar General

Tcoat 03-27-2015 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtymax (Post 2187860)
Thats crazy ugly. Who in their right mind at scion would think this will sell unless you can buy it at Dollar General

The sad part is that they will park them beside the FRS and say "now if the 2 door is not practical we have this little baby right here for you"

MokSpeed 03-27-2015 04:06 PM

2014 Civics look better than that and I think new Civics are hideous. To be honest I never thought Scions were that aesthetically pleasing to begin with. There is no Scion, past, present, or future, that I would buy. The only exception being the FR-S, which is a rebadged Toyota for the US.

Jesse36m3 03-27-2015 04:11 PM

That car looks very confused.

swarb 03-27-2015 04:22 PM

It's a rebadged mazda 2 pretty much.
It's a low cost car.
They can't make it look too good or it will look better than cars above it.

f0rge 03-27-2015 04:45 PM

So much Elantra. Screams Hyundai

HunterGreene 03-27-2015 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2187900)
It's a rebadged mazda 2 pretty much.
It's a low cost car.
They can't make it look too good or it will look better than cars above it.

My point exactly. This should not have been a Scion, they should have made this a Toyota, for all the excitement it brings.

Dimman 03-27-2015 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2187975)
My point exactly. This should not have been a Scion, they should have made this a Toyota, for all the excitement it brings.

Yaris sedan in Canada according to the article.


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