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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 09:58 AM

SCCA pro solo what class
 
I am racing in the SCCA pro solo in May at MetLife stadium in jersey. I can't figure out what class I would be in and im having problems trying to find the class I need.

My mods are:
18x9 wheels
Racing seat and harness
Billet power blocks
Intake
Exhaust
Coilovers
Swaybars
Upper rear control atm bushings
Rear LCA
Strut bars
Short shifter
Crank pulley
Upgraded brakes front and rear EBC all around.
Open flash tablet with stage one bpb tune.

What class does that put me in?

I would like to keep everything simple.

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 10:23 AM

I normally run STX I keep hearing I should be in DSP because of the blocks. And I'm making a front splitter for the car also.


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G_Ride 03-18-2015 10:29 AM

I think the power blocks move you out of STX in CSP. How far is the front splitter going to extend?

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 10:32 AM

2" from my front lip n 1.5" on each side of the bumper


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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 10:33 AM

Front splitter measures out to 68"x24"


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Laloosh 03-18-2015 10:36 AM

What tires?

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 10:36 AM

Nitto nto5 235/40/18


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G_Ride 03-18-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TRD_Demon527 (Post 2173848)
2" from my front lip n 1.5" on each side of the bumper


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Originally Posted by TRD_Demon527 (Post 2173852)
Front splitter measures out to 68"x24"


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If the splitter extends beyond the bumper or beyond the front most part of the front wheel well opening, you'd be bumped from CSP to SM.

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 10:45 AM

So then my frs is in street mod


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renfield90 03-18-2015 11:49 AM

Double check the street mod splitter allowances. IIRC I think it's only allowed to be wider than the bumper by a certain amount.

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 11:55 AM

The front bumper is about 66" wide


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G_Ride 03-18-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by renfield90 (Post 2173921)
Double check the street mod splitter allowances. IIRC I think it's only allowed to be wider than the bumper by a certain amount.

You're right: No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

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Originally Posted by TRD_Demon527 (Post 2173931)
The front bumper is about 66" wide


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See above

renfield90 03-18-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by G_Ride (Post 2173940)
You're right: No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

That's right. I knew it was more restrictive than intuition would suggest.



OP, this splitter you're building throws you all the way to prepared (probably F Prepared, but I try to avoid looking at the prepared rules so I don't know). If you don't really care about being competitive and just wanna have fun, by all means build the car that YOU want to have and just run it in whatever class it falls in.

Sans splitter you are in CSP. Running in STX with an illegal power mod is very likely to get you protested at a national event.

mav1178 03-18-2015 12:56 PM

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Running in STX with an illegal power mod is very likely to get you protested at a national event.

only if you are fast enough for anyone to care.

I ran STX with an "illegal" mod (Greddy rear diff cover) and no one cared because I was more than 5 seconds off the podium pace.

-alex

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 01:00 PM

I'm more of a competitive person. So I want to run legit. Just called the SCCA. With all of my upgrades im classed as street mod


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renfield90 03-18-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD_Demon527 (Post 2174025)
I'm more of a competitive person. So I want to run legit. Just called the SCCA. With all of my upgrades im classed as street mod


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I recommend you read the rules, find a class that fits your budget, and build the car out for it. You're most of the way there for STX if you can remove your SM/SP items. If you want to stay in SM you're looking at forced induction and some really big Hoosier A6 tires (and whatever body work it takes to fit that), at a minimum. There's a guy on here with a SM FRS, he can tell you how far into it he is and how he does in the class.

If you're new to the sport I recommend an easier class to start with, so there's a smaller list of things you need to max out the rules, less knobs to turn, etc. while you learn the sport. Even if you know what you're doing, SM can be a money pit - there's no shortage of uncompetitive SM cars with money sunk into them well into the five figures.

renfield90 03-18-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2174021)
only if you are fast enough for anyone to care.

I ran STX with an "illegal" mod (Greddy rear diff cover) and no one cared because I was more than 5 seconds off the podium pace.

-alex

It's a sliding scale. If you're DFL then nobody cares. If your mod is fairly minor, most people won't care unless you're near the pointy end of the field - a diff cover gives you what, reduced drag at non-solo speeds? Better cooling? Most won't care about that unless you're stealing contingency or a trophy from them.

If your mod is something really obvious that adds 18HP, it's more likely to get protested even by the midpack guys. That's especially true at a pro solo since it's a season-long series and there's points at stake every event. If you showed up at a pro with a turbo and ran STX, you're getting protested if you finish anywhere besides last.

At a local, most could care less unless they've got a stick up their ass.

mav1178 03-18-2015 01:55 PM

@renfield90 trust me I know, I have the Crawford blocks too and unless someone was looking specifically for it, they won't see it.

Hence my post about being competitive... Last few times no one cared my car was a non-STX entry (diff cover + Crawford blocks + STi gurney flap).

-alex

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 01:58 PM

It's my first pro solo and I don't expect to win. But I plan on giving them hell. I have time to finish some upgrades


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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 02:02 PM

My tires are 200 tread wear


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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 02:13 PM

So my Nitto nto5 r no good


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renfield90 03-18-2015 02:13 PM

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My tires are 200 tread wear


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SM doesn't have a treadwear limit, it's any DOT approved tire. You're up against the Hoosier A6 and A7 which is a very grippy tire...to the point of being at least 2 seconds faster than your tire (and that's just assuming the same size - everyone in SM is gonna have a lot more tire than 235mm). You're also way down on power to all the other SM cars.

Nobody's trying to knock you here, but we do want you to set reasonable expectations for yourself. I've seen lots of people get frustrated and quit because they mod their car and are hopelessly in last place, and it sucks to watch that happen.

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 02:17 PM

A friend of mine is in sm but he is caged similar setup


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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 02:19 PM

I kno in probably out of my league but atleast I'm up to it


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Laloosh 03-18-2015 07:16 PM

I say run Stx, I know many of the drivers who will be battling for trophies and no offense but you will not be anywhere near them. Go out and have fun.

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 07:21 PM

I can't run stx because of the power blocks


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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 07:23 PM

I don't care if I place or not. I plan on giving everyone hell in my class. N I'm racing in CSP because of the blocks. My splitter is for the track


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Laloosh 03-18-2015 07:25 PM

I know. I am guessing you are new to this correct? With your lack of experience and the fact that our stx group is stacked with talent it won't matter. Its just something I would do to at least hang out with cars at your level. SM you will be going against FTD type cars.

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 07:42 PM

I took 5 years off from racing in general when I went into the military. Started back up in 2013 and trying to get back to where I was. I never have seen last place in stx and me going into CSP , I don't plan on coming in last. I kno I'm outclassed in SM so in order to stay with a competitive car I need to stay in CSP. At least till my other car is done.


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Laloosh 03-18-2015 08:28 PM

Good luck with whatever you decide and See you there.

TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 08:29 PM

Thank you


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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 10:09 PM

I don't want to remove my power blocks on my car. I put them in and really don't want to take them out


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TRD_Demon527 03-18-2015 10:12 PM

Would they know if I was running billet power blocks?


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G_Ride 03-19-2015 01:47 AM

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Would they know if I was running billet power blocks?


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It's possible. After finishing your session you and the rest of your group park your cars at impound and pop the hood and trunk. Your car can be inspected and your power blocks could be found.

QuikJ 05-11-2015 11:45 PM

How was your experience at the Pro?


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