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Martinnangel 03-15-2015 03:59 PM

air intake temperature and UEL headers
 
Hi, everyone!

2 things

1. What is the normal air intake temperature for the frs/86?
2. I had custom catless uel headers (no leaks when checked) made and now its a really loud "rumble" I can also hear the engine. Is this normal? Had this done to my celica, it was loud but not like this rumble

*custom pipping done for intake
*HKS filter
*custom full exhaust (headers to tip)
*no tuning done yet

Any suggestions/input/clarification with regards to data provided are open

Thank you!!! :)

Koa 03-15-2015 04:02 PM

First off, visit @steve99 's threads on this subject.. second off, please repost this to Software subforum

1GiantTurtle 03-15-2015 05:25 PM

congratulations you now have the famous boxer rumble

_______ 03-15-2015 06:32 PM

Hmm why else did you get UEL? People get it for the rumble.

billwot 03-15-2015 07:07 PM

Intake temp = ambient temp.

Koa 03-15-2015 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by billwot (Post 2170178)
Intake temp = ambient temp.

where are you getting this info?

that's not true at all..

Martinnangel 03-15-2015 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=_______;2170142]Hmm why else did you get UEL? People get it for the

yeah hut mostly for the added torque. Yet to tune it though. But the sound is louder than I estimated hence the concern haha

Martinnangel 03-15-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _______ (Post 2170142)
Hmm why else did you get UEL? People get it for the rumble.

yeah hut mostly for the added torque. Yet to tune it though. But the sound is louder than I estimated hence the concern haha

Martinnangel 03-15-2015 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2170279)
where are you getting this info?

that's not true at all..

Was hesitant about this one. :) you have any Idea of the normal IAT (Tropical climateif that helps - ambient usually at 30-32 C)

Koa 03-15-2015 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinnangel (Post 2170285)
Was hesitant about this one. :) you have any Idea of the normal IAT (Tropical climateif that helps - ambient usually at 30-32 C)

What intake or modifications to the stock do you have? plastic inlet tubes are getting bad rap for being quite the heatsoak; some intakes fare better than others.. I can't exactly comment on those temperatures so I will leave it to someone else who can give some accurate #s

but in traffic or standstill these cars' IATs shoot up due to the buttoned-up sealed engine bay.. even my Grimmspeed intake shoots past 100-120+F in traffic on a 20C day here in washington ... but when going, temps can fall to 40-60Fahrenheit

billwot 03-15-2015 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2170279)
where are you getting this info?

that's not true at all..


Have you ever measured intake temps? I have!

In fact, I have monitored intake air temps over a wide variety of conditions on my MR2 turbo...a mid engined, turbo car. At normal highway speeds, (> 35mph) intake air temps never exceed ambient.

In heavy traffic, intake temps never exceed ambient by more than 3-5F.

I suggest you actually do some measurement before you make a lot of assumptions.

stevesnj 03-15-2015 10:20 PM

Air intake temp, the cooler the better.

phobos512 03-15-2015 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billwot (Post 2170313)
Have you ever measured intake temps? I have!

In fact, I have monitored intake air temps over a wide variety of conditions on my MR2 turbo...a mid engined, turbo car. At normal highway speeds, (> 35mph) intake air temps never exceed ambient.

In heavy traffic, intake temps never exceed ambient by more than 3-5F.

I suggest you actually do some measurement before you make a lot of assumptions.

I have, with my Grimmspeed intake on our actual vehicle, and I see temps when moving within 5 F of ambient. However at a stop it definitely climbs. It returns to close to ambient very soon after getting rolling again, but it's always higher than ambient in city driving.

Martinnangel 03-15-2015 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2170300)
What intake or modifications to the stock do you have? plastic inlet tubes are getting bad rap for being quite the heatsoak; some intakes fare better than others.. I can't exactly comment on those temperatures so I will leave it to someone else who can give some accurate #s

but in traffic or standstill these cars' IATs shoot up due to the buttoned-up sealed engine bay.. even my Grimmspeed intake shoots past 100-120+F in traffic on a 20C day here in washington ... but when going, temps can fall to 40-60Fahrenheit

Stainless steelpiping from filter to tb, as well as the headers and full exhaust (although I think the last two have nothingto do with it )

Right now the ambient air is 34C and the highest my IAT got (includin traffic conditions was 63C!


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