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-   -   Who's tired of the "Pedal Dance" and wants to be in real control of their car? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84360)

2016 Camaro SS 03-24-2015 08:58 AM

Damn people are lazy and I don't even do the pedal dance. This should be one of those "As Seen On TV" items with an infomercial and terrible actors.

rice_classic 03-24-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickg87 (Post 2182430)
Sounds Good. Could you give some more detail about the switch and setup
Thx

That'll be up to the company that makes it. I'm just some dude on the internet.

It could be a toggle switch on the device itself, it could be a wired switch that you could mount anywhere you desire in the cabin. The switch could be in the form of a button, a lever, or even a fingerprint scanner... the point is that the device could be 2 things. A Pedal Dance replicator and an OBDII port pass through.

mav1178 03-24-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by simpleisbest (Post 2181248)
You all know they have OBD2 splitters on the market, right?
Amazon.com: OBDII Splitter Y Cable, J1962M to 2-J1962F, 1ft (145802): Automotive

Funny enough, that's what I bought from Amazon.
It does not work with my AIM Solo DL + Pivot Dual gauge.

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-alex

lx93 03-28-2015 09:39 PM

would my P3 vent gauge work with this and a splitter?

Blu-by-U 03-29-2015 01:05 PM

No offense to the Speed Factory, but if you own an OFT, update it.

raul 03-30-2015 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 2168219)
If that's one of the cases, I usually go 10% on warm-up lap to make sure everything gets up to temp and pull into the hot pit. Shut off, start up, do pedal dance, and go back out. It also allows some people to get out of the way for me so I can run some cleaner laps. :)

Most of the time I start up the car 5 minutes early and drive around the paddock to make sure everything else is warmed up. I have a LSD too. ;)

Valid point, but doesn't always work. While I'm in the same boat as many here and would rather plug in a Solo DL, the car not being up to temperature is often a problem without a solution. Track days are busy for many of us, especially track veterans who instruct as well at events. Also hot pitting isn't always ideal if you're in a Time Trial session that's already too short. Normally in our region they arrange the grid in order of fastest time to minimize traffic and the chance you'll be stuck behind someone slower, hot pitting to do the pedal dance may get you stuck in traffic again, when otherwise they optimized your position.

CSG Mike 03-30-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by raul (Post 2190550)
Valid point, but doesn't always work. While I'm in the same boat as many here and would rather plug in a Solo DL, the car not being up to temperature is often a problem without a solution. Track days are busy for many of us, especially track veterans who instruct as well at events. Also hot pitting isn't always ideal if you're in a Time Trial session that's already too short. Normally in our region they arrange the grid in order of fastest time to minimize traffic and the chance you'll be stuck behind someone slower, hot pitting to do the pedal dance may get you stuck in traffic again, when otherwise they optimized your position.

If you're competing, you have no reason for not being able to let your car idle to get up to temp....

raul 03-30-2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2191057)
If you're competing, you have no reason for not being able to let your car idle to get up to temp....

Depends on outside temp. On cooler days idling doesn't do the job. I've let the car idle for 20 minutes only to find the temp gauge is at the 1/4 mark from cold in 60F weather. It usually has to be around 1/3 for the pedal dance to work. Maybe raising the idle engine speed might help.

wparsons 03-30-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2191057)
If you're competing, you have no reason for not being able to let your car idle to get up to temp....

Also depends if you're strictly competing, or helping volunteer at the event as well.

qoncept 03-30-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 2168140)
Or you can spend 2 seconds and do the pedal dance. Gawd...I hate moving after working out just my right leg and right arm.

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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 2168219)
Most of the time I start up the car 5 minutes early and drive around the paddock to make sure everything else is warmed up. I have a LSD too. ;)

Why would you want something to happen automatically when it only takes 5 minutes EVERY TIME YOU START YOUR CAR to do it yourself? Everyone knows what the peddle dance is, how long it takes, how strong their quads have to be. Beaten to death. Maybe there's a CSG thread you could contribute something useful to.

ddeflyer 03-30-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by qoncept (Post 2191527)
Why would you want something to happen automatically when it only takes 5 minutes EVERY TIME YOU START YOUR CAR to do it yourself? Everyone knows what the peddle dance is, how long it takes, how strong their quads have to be. Beaten to death. Maybe there's a CSG thread you could contribute something useful to.

I think the point is that you shouldn't be taking your car on track when it isn't up to temp yet.

And regarding the OBDII Y cables, they don't work because they don't have a can bus hub in them on pins 6 and 14. There are actually several generations of OBDII ports with various signaling and data rates and such, some of which are compatible with a splitter cable and others which are not. The CAN bus protocol (which this device and Solo DL work on) is one of the ones that is not amenable to simple signal splitter cables. That said, you MIGHT be able to make it work if you were to program the Solo DL to read legacy OBDII (since it is a different set of pins), though you would loose the best data channels and have slow data rates (think 1hz or 0.5Hz refresh instead of 5Hz or 10Hz).

qoncept 03-30-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ddeflyer (Post 2191610)
I think the point is that you shouldn't be taking your car on track when it isn't up to temp yet.

The point is that there are 2 guys from a competing vendor that are 1) arguing with people about personal preference so they can 2) badmouth another vendor's product.

It's $80 for a device that occupies your OBD-II port and automatically disables annoyances. It doesn't take 3 pages of "expert" comments to decide whether or not you want that.

CSG Mike 03-30-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raul (Post 2191423)
Depends on outside temp. On cooler days idling doesn't do the job. I've let the car idle for 20 minutes only to find the temp gauge is at the 1/4 mark from cold in 60F weather. It usually has to be around 1/3 for the pedal dance to work. Maybe raising the idle engine speed might help.

Park the car facing away from the wind rather than into it :)

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2191464)
Also depends if you're strictly competing, or helping volunteer at the event as well.

Ask someone to do it for you :)

CSG David 03-30-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by qoncept (Post 2191527)
Why would you want something to happen automatically when it only takes 5 minutes EVERY TIME YOU START YOUR CAR to do it yourself? Everyone knows what the peddle dance is, how long it takes, how strong their quads have to be. Beaten to death. Maybe there's a CSG thread you could contribute something useful to.

Application wise, it makes sense for certain individuals. :cheers:


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