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-   -   Who's tired of the "Pedal Dance" and wants to be in real control of their car? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84360)

glamcem 03-13-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2166908)
The elimination of datalogging makes this completely useless to any serious trackday or autocross enthusiast...

Does it eliminate the e-diff and EBD as well?

exactly what I thought, if someone can make a BT OBD2 adapter with this feature built in or make it adjustable via one of the datalogging software such as Torque app, I would buy it in a heartbeat

mav1178 03-13-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 2166871)
I agree data logging parameters is important but you shouldn't need that every single event/session especially when time matters.

All tuning and everything else should be long sorted out before your important runs or session is made.

While true, I use my OBD-II port for two things:
1) Pivot gauge reading oil temp and coolant temp
2) AIM Solo DL configured to read 4 parameters: real-time lap temp, delta vs best previous lap time, coolant temp, and oil temp

The "when time matters" part is ESPECIALLY important to have AIM Solo or other real-time timing in place to help monitor lap times. I can't say how many people have the regular vs DL, but when I'm trying to push a personal best it's very useful to know which parts of the track I'm slower at in real time instead of downloading data in the pits.

As mentioned already, a Y-splitter won't work. I bought one and now have a $20 paperweight in my garage.

The pedal dance takes me about 10 seconds to do, 5 if I'm fast. YMMV.

-alex

Cockatoo 03-13-2015 02:11 PM

cough cough:

https://www.facebook.com/86nannycontroller

ATL BRZ 03-13-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2167763)

coughTHIScough

7thgear 03-13-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 2166871)
I agree data logging parameters is important but you shouldn't need that every single event/session especially when time matters.

All tuning and everything else should be long sorted out before your important runs or session is made.



You're generating a marketing "line" that is just not true.

mav1178 03-13-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2167763)

I'd restrict discussion to products currently available for purchase. This, while great, isn't for sale yet... hell, I don't even know if it's a legit company or not aside from pictures and an email...

-alex

Cockatoo 03-13-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2167911)
I'd restrict discussion to products currently available for purchase. This, while great, isn't for sale yet... hell, I don't even know if it's a legit company or not aside from pictures and an email...

-alex

Not trying to ruffle any feathers... just letting people know there is a better product planned for the future

kster1 03-13-2015 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2167763)

I'll be watching this product. Being unable to use the Solo DL is a deal breaker for me.

continuecrushing 03-13-2015 05:03 PM

forum begs for device so we dont have to dance on pedals

after 2+ years, device presented.

forum bitches it doesn't make coffee

lol...at least we're going in the right direction

ddeflyer 03-13-2015 05:07 PM

<rant>
Unfortunately, the incompatibility of this product with the most common forms of data logging means that this product is unlikely to be used by the people who are justified and qualified to make use of it. I fear that this product will end up being a tool of the idiot who imagines their street car to be a race car after they slam it to the ground and do other inadvisable things to its suspension and then starts stuntin and splodin it on the streets.
</rant>

fatalelement 03-13-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ddeflyer (Post 2168061)
stuntin and splodin

Best phrase of 2015.

Can we get a "stuntin and splodin" official subforum or maybe just a t shirt

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

stugray 03-13-2015 05:55 PM

Very nice device and great price!

However.... countdown to reverse engineering ... 5, 4, 3......
(if I had my hands on one we would be at 0).

There is a unit available in Japan for $350 that was probably rev-engineered for this one (just a guess).

Once we know what OBD commands it sends/responds to, we can make a tactrix do it relatively quickly and would likely be able to continue logging.

CSG David 03-13-2015 06:06 PM

Or you can spend 2 seconds and do the pedal dance. Gawd...I hate moving after working out just my right leg and right arm.

sw20kosh 03-13-2015 06:15 PM

I HAVE to be able to use the solo DL. Can't use this thing.


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