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not_sure 02-25-2015 11:21 PM

Bought car with ecutek tune...what now?
 
I bought a 14 firestorm monogram frs in june..used 1600miles, but a cpo car. The trans was trashed (6mt). Dealer replaced, no issues. Noticed soon after the car rev matched durring downshifts, thought it was normal lol. Now being better informed, the car definitely has a ecutek tune, not the racerom. Now to my question wid dem tax dollaz I want a OFT. Will the oft see the ecutek rom as my stock rom, can i even use the oft (ive been told ecutek locks the rom), does oft support auto blip rev matching and all the other goodies that ecutek has and how do the compare. Sorry for the shitty sentence structure..im on my phone.

Xero-Limit 02-25-2015 11:27 PM

If there's an EcuTek license on there, you'd be wasting a ton of money and time going with anything but. You can just get the cable/dongle for way less than the other options (we do them for 329) and then you'll use that license and have the full features of ProECU and make your own tune. You can even import the OFT tunes or open source tunes if you want a base file.

not_sure 02-25-2015 11:29 PM

How do i know if its licensed w/o spending 329 dollhairs?

Shiv@Openflash 02-25-2015 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by not_sure (Post 2147539)
I bought a 14 firestorm monogram frs in june..used 1600miles, but a cpo car. The trans was trashed (6mt). Dealer replaced, no issues. Noticed soon after the car rev matched durring downshifts, thought it was normal lol. Now being better informed, the car definitely has a ecutek tune, not the racerom. Now to my question wid dem tax dollaz I want a OFT. Will the oft see the ecutek rom as my stock rom, can i even use the oft (ive been told ecutek locks the rom), does oft support auto blip rev matching and all the other goodies that ecutek has and how do the compare. Sorry for the shitty sentence structure..im on my phone.

OFT currently supports no-lift shift and launch control. No auto-blip or flex-fuel support at this time. If you want an OFT, the best thing would be to visit any Ecutek dealer and ask them to flash the ECU back to stock. At which point the OFT can be installed as normal.

If you keep your Ecutek flash there, you can still use the OFT on-board datalogging, digital gauge displays, tuner alerts, etc,. But you will not be able to use the read/write functionality. Also worth mentioning that with the Ecutek tune installed, the dealership will not be able to update ECU software.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask or email us at sales@openflashperformance.com :)

Cheers
shiv

not_sure 02-25-2015 11:50 PM

Thanks, as much as i like the oft, i guess im stuck with the ecutek. :mad:

steve99 02-26-2015 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by not_sure (Post 2147577)
Thanks, as much as i like the oft, i guess im stuck with the ecutek. :mad:

if you have the ecutek features it will have licence embedded in ecu firmware.
ecu will be locked to all but ecutek system
you can still log just unable to read\write uless done by ecutek system ie you buy cable or by ecutek tuner.

look at it another way you got a free ecutek licience worth $400 :D

not_sure 02-26-2015 12:24 AM

Yea but if i get caught with the tune at the dealer my 100k warranty is gone. Main reason i wanted the oft. Plus i dont know of any ecutek dealers in nc

Kodename47 02-26-2015 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by not_sure (Post 2147609)
Yea but if i get caught with the tune at the dealer my 100k warranty is gone. Main reason i wanted the oft. Plus i dont know of any ecutek dealers in nc

Not sure how you worked that out, how is OFT any different to ECUtek in that regard? A tune is a tune.

not_sure 02-26-2015 03:43 AM

Oft easy to flash back stock

Shiv@Openflash 02-26-2015 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 2147747)
Not sure how you worked that out, how is OFT any different to ECUtek in that regard? A tune is a tune.

Because when you flash with Ecutek, the ECU is usually locked and prohibits flashing with any other device (even the factory diagnostic tool). At that point onwards, only an Ecutek cable can flash the ECU. I suspect this is primarily to prevent the Ecutek license from being lost in case the dealer overwrites the ECU during a software update. With the OFT, there is no software license so as long as you flash your ECU back to stock before dealer visits, any software update by the dealership just involves you erasing your OFT and reinstalling it.

steve99 02-26-2015 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by not_sure (Post 2147749)
Oft easy to flash back stock

Ok what everone is saying is correct in a way

Your in a bit of a bind because with no ecutek dealer near by to flash you back a stock ecutek rom, your ging to need to buy a ecutek cable for about $400 and do it your self.

If you spending that then you may as well stay with ecutek, unless you can get to an ecutek tuner and they can flash it to stock for you.

With an ecutek stock rom in the car its unlikely dealer would pick anything as its a srock rom but has ecutek licience info in it. But average dealer does not have facilities to pull roms and analyse they just reflash.

I can pick ecutek stock rom by comparing it to real stock rom with hex editor.

With your current ecutek tuned rom the dealer cannot flash and may notice the auto blip features or map switching ect. or they may assume ecu is stuffed. depends if they are trying to wezzel out of expensive warantee work.

To switch to oft and be able to flash a completly stock rom, your still going to need to get a stock ecutek rom flashed somehow as oft or anything other than ecutek cannot flash your car till that is done.

not sure if you could complain to the car dealer you bought car from or maybe talked to previois owner thay may even have an ecutek cable.

i understand why ecutek lock ecu but it does suck in your situation.

not_sure 02-26-2015 04:56 AM

Nah, dealer is a pos. They hate me lol

Kodename47 02-26-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by not_sure (Post 2147749)
Oft easy to flash back stock

No easier or harder than ECUtek.

Circuit Motorsports 02-26-2015 03:08 PM

If you flash a stock ROM with EcuTek, the ECU will no longer be locked and the dealer will be able to flash updates, etc. You will also be able to flash other tunes from other solutions as well.

It would seem your car is already tuned, why not stay with the tune/setup it has, since the bulk of the tuning investment is already done?

You will need an EcuTek cable kit (Cable and Dongle) to flash back to stock and/or data log and tune further. You could visit a local EcuTek dealer to check it out/flash it, buy an EcuTek cable kit, or even borrow someone's kit. The kits can be shared. The cable kit includes the cable, dongle, and advanced software for flashing, advanced data logging and graphing, and tuning. See here: http://www.brz-parts.com/cms-ecu-cab.html

- Bob


Quote:

Originally Posted by not_sure (Post 2147539)
I bought a 14 firestorm monogram frs in june..used 1600miles, but a cpo car. The trans was trashed (6mt). Dealer replaced, no issues. Noticed soon after the car rev matched durring downshifts, thought it was normal lol. Now being better informed, the car definitely has a ecutek tune, not the racerom. Now to my question wid dem tax dollaz I want a OFT. Will the oft see the ecutek rom as my stock rom, can i even use the oft (ive been told ecutek locks the rom), does oft support auto blip rev matching and all the other goodies that ecutek has and how do the compare. Sorry for the shitty sentence structure..im on my phone.



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