open source software question
 

If someone is using the open software platform, basically taking oft maps that's public property(free), can they modify it and resell it? If someone then purchases this tune, extracts it say via a tactrix, and resell it again, is it illegal? Or even extract purchased tune, then give it free to someone else?

so much dodge in these questions.

No dodgy. I just believe you cant sell something you got for free. Can even be a television.

It comes down to moral fibre, some people simply don't have a single strand of it.

Constipation?

Goodness, how I long for carbs, cams, ram tubes and manual tuning! :bow::respekt: :bonk:

Being in the IT profession, I can appreciate EULA's!


All getting too bloody hectic for my liking. :barf:

I,m not a lawyer and laws change between states and countries.

But is probably actually illegal just to extract and reverse engineer the original ecu code and tables in the ecu of a vehicle wether is for free or for profit. Then even more issues to make changes to this interlectual property of the vehicle manufacturer and on sell the product like tuners do or even redistribute the original ecu code in it original or modified form.

We probably get away with it as many people buy gt86 wrx evo ect with the intent to modify the vehicle and if manufacturers chased down tuners or the reverse engineers they woud loose a lot of sales.

All tuners are probably walking a fine line and that likely limits their ability to take on people who may onsell or redistribute their work as they are in effect redistributing the vehicle manufactures intelectual property for their own gain.

then you have the moral aspect of profiteering off someone elses work

probably why openflah tablet guys are the first that i know of that have open tunes, they are relying on the tablet to a large degree and their support, its a new marketing strategy and may not work in long term.

It also made the other tuners offer canned but locked tunes at a reasnoble price. like $300 instead of full dyno tune only fr $1500 plus on an NA car in my country



but i may be wrong :)

I agree steve. I think in a court case a tuner will come 2nd with trying to pursue intellectual property as you mentioned.

OFT have a great business model and an excellent product, I am guessing most of their revenue comes from selling the actual hardware its self rather then the tunes, hence giving the tunes away at no extra cost.

Having said this, any self respecting "tuner" would have a hard time sleeping at night, profiting off of someone else's work like that.

You would expect someone with even an ounce of moral fiber to keep far away from even thinking about stealing someones else's work (time/effort/intellectual property/money), taking a free tune and selling it, let alone stealing a custom tune created from scratch by a competent tuner and passing it off as their own - but this is not the case unfortunately..sad but true.

Bloody agents!

I just want to state that I dont have software on my 86, neither does sav

Neither do I nor will I... :rolleyes:

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So when you purchase something it's illegal to take it apart? To try to understand how it works? It's illegal to modify your own property?

As i said i am not a lawyer
most tunes are illegal in most countries as they alter emmisions

Suggest you contact car manufacturer and ask if its ok to read\reverse enginneer\modify their ecu software which is proteted with software key locks, let us know the answer.