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RockySDS 02-12-2015 10:12 PM

Dyno'd our stock BRZ on Tuesday, broke 600 hp with Delicious
 
OK maybe it's not stock, but the latter part is true.

Hit the dyno on Tuesday in Denver with our friend William Knose of Delicious Tuning for him to work a little bit of his magic on #RevvProjectBRZ!

The results:

http://www.revvolution.com/image/alb...bers-72995.jpg

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWfyl5yoOw&list=UUHbWo0UVy0SGQLM43ITCyUA"]#RevvProjectBRZ Dyno Session 603hp / 462 ft-lbs with the Subaru BRZ FA20 - YouTube[/ame]

There's also a good bit left in her as well. Ran out of fuel flow up top thanks to the stock fuel lines. Still had a couple pounds of boost as well as about 7 degrees of timing left to really push her. Once we get the lines resolved we'll get back on that dyno for the big numbers.

Huge props to Bill @ Delicious for killing it with the tune. I have to say that without his traction control, the 600hp is pretty damn hard to put down. He threw the book at this build with his full flex fuel kit, dynamic barometric compensation & boost control, flat-foot shifting, downshift throttle blipping (this is a badass cheat lol), and that traction control. I'm putting together a full vid walking through everything he/we did so let me know if there's anything you want me to address in terms of drivability or tech.

All I have to say is it's amazing how drivable this car is right now. Ridiculously "linear" power band makes it super fun to drive, an absolute asshole when you lay down the throttle (even 20% it gets ridiculous) and feels stock when just putting around (ok, aside from my twin-disc clutch).

If you guys haven't been following along with the build, check out our build log on here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58407

or our blog where we document the entire build process:

http://www.revvolution.com/blog/Plat...-BRZ-Scion-FRS


and here's a shot of her incase you haven't seen:

http://www.revvolution.com/image/alb...date-72998.jpg

8R6 02-12-2015 10:21 PM

nice build. and still looks pretty clean too!

FRSBRZGT86FAN 02-12-2015 11:19 PM

Looks pretty stock to me

LucidMomentum 02-12-2015 11:23 PM

Stock*

*with turbo**

**what people wished they'd get stock.

swarb 02-12-2015 11:29 PM

:bow:

Raven604 02-13-2015 07:59 AM

Watch out for this guy

Defuser 02-13-2015 10:25 AM

Hory sheet, love the seam welding!

Tcoat 02-13-2015 10:33 AM

And here ladies and gentleman is proof that you can indeed tastefully "stance" a car and do all the other things right to get respect!

Koa 02-13-2015 10:49 AM

:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:

Porcupint 02-13-2015 11:16 AM

Love the look of the molded RB kit and amazed at how fairly linear the power curve is for so much power.

mmmcambelsoup 02-13-2015 11:46 AM

cheese us crust, that sounds like sex.

Sideways&Smiling 02-13-2015 11:53 AM

what size wheels/tires were on when you were having trouble with traction before the traction control? just curious

RockySDS 02-13-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defuser (Post 2130953)
Hory sheet, love the seam welding!

This blew us away with how big of a difference it made. It was literally the first "mod" we did, and while we only drove it around on the streets, it was more than noticeable. But I wish we could've tested it out on the track after seamwelding and before all the other suspension mods to really understand how much of a difference it made. It was a ton of work

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2130564)
Looks pretty stock to me

Straight off the showroom floor lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porcupint (Post 2131006)
Love the look of the molded RB kit and amazed at how fairly linear the power curve is for so much power.

Thanks! Wanted something a little different than the rest. I'm also super impressed with how linear the entire power band is. Going into the build Garrett was pushing the 35R, but we wanted something that wasn't just a highway rocket. The smaller turbo definitely has some punch down low, spools quickly and has great top-end performance. The graph backs this up too. I'll put together a vid highlighting how 'driveable' she is shortly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling (Post 2131043)
what size wheels/tires were on when you were having trouble with traction before the traction control? just curious

We're on Yokohama AD08R's on all four, 18x9.5's front and 18x10.5 rear. Keep in mind those are like pure performance summer tires, so our 50 degree weather is under their peak performance temp. So when cold it's like ice skating, but once they warmed up I was still able to break them loose in 5th but manageable to keep it well under control (this is without traction control). Once Delicious implemented the traction control it was wayyy more manageable and really helped putting the power down. We will also do a comparison for the traction control too because it's a huge difference over OE where they just nail the brakes

MAPerformance 02-13-2015 01:43 PM

Love the car guys. This must be a blast to pilot. Nice work @DeliciousTuning:thumbsup:

Hotrodheart 02-13-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockySDS (Post 2130464)
OK maybe it's not stock, but the latter part is true.

Hit the dyno on Tuesday in Denver with our friend William Knose of Delicious Tuning for him to work a little bit of his magic on #RevvProjectBRZ!

The results:

http://www.revvolution.com/image/alb...bers-72995.jpg

#RevvProjectBRZ Dyno Session 603hp / 462 ft-lbs with the Subaru BRZ FA20 - YouTube

There's also a good bit left in her as well. Ran out of fuel flow up top thanks to the stock fuel lines. Still had a couple pounds of boost as well as about 7 degrees of timing left to really push her. Once we get the lines resolved we'll get back on that dyno for the big numbers.

Huge props to Bill @ Delicious for killing it with the tune. I have to say that without his traction control, the 600hp is pretty damn hard to put down. He threw the book at this build with his full flex fuel kit, dynamic barometric compensation & boost control, flat-foot shifting, downshift throttle blipping (this is a badass cheat lol), and that traction control. I'm putting together a full vid walking through everything he/we did so let me know if there's anything you want me to address in terms of drivability or tech.

All I have to say is it's amazing how drivable this car is right now. Ridiculously "linear" power band makes it super fun to drive, an absolute asshole when you lay down the throttle (even 20% it gets ridiculous) and feels stock when just putting around (ok, aside from my twin-disc clutch).

If you guys haven't been following along with the build, check out our build log on here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58407

or our blog where we document the entire build process:

http://www.revvolution.com/blog/Plat...-BRZ-Scion-FRS


and here's a shot of her incase you haven't seen:

http://www.revvolution.com/image/alb...date-72998.jpg

My FR-S has 600 h.p. and is stock as well. It has three engines, one in the rear, and one where the back seat used to be. Totally stock.

Koa 02-13-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockySDS (Post 2131078)
This blew us away with how big of a difference it made. It was literally the first "mod" we did, and while we only drove it around on the streets, it was more than noticeable. But I wish we could've tested it out on the track after seamwelding and before all the other suspension mods to really understand how much of a difference it made. It was a ton of work


Would you recommend seam welding for weekend warriors/hardcore enthusiasts that do light track duty? Or is the cost versus benefit ratio outside of what most should do? @MAPerformance , @DeliciousTuning , et all feel free to chime in.

Pat 02-13-2015 01:48 PM

Way more work than what it is worth unless you're doing an over-the-top build.

dem00n 02-13-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat (Post 2131281)
Way more work than what it is worth unless you're doing an over-the-top build.

Sometimes when it comes to cars, logic need not apply.

That's how you create memories.

RockySDS 02-13-2015 02:18 PM

Unless it's a full-blown race car seamwelding shouldn't be considered (cost-benefit). It requires basically stripping the entire car down to the chassis

Porcupint 02-13-2015 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodheart (Post 2131278)
My FR-S has 600 h.p. and is stock as well. It has three engines, one in the rear, and one where the back seat used to be. Totally stock.

Three engines and you only got 600 horsepower out of it?

Koa 02-13-2015 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 2131332)
Sometimes when it comes to cars, logic need not apply.

That's how you create memories.

That may be true, but our time on this Earth is extremely limited and for some, yes, the build is all that matters. For others, me included, I have moved away from doing illogical upgrades and spending more time in seat, so to speak. I'm a little jaded and tired of having projects that spend more time on jackstands than pounding tar :respekt:

Teseo 02-13-2015 03:07 PM

Top notch build. Wich ecu have? Im very curious about the auto blip.
Congrats

dem00n 02-13-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2131361)
That may be true, but our time on this Earth is extremely limited and for some, yes, the build is all that matters. For others, me included, I have moved away from doing illogical upgrades and spending more time in seat, so to speak. I'm a little jaded and tired of having projects that spend more time on jackstands than pounding tar :respekt:

As someone who wouldn't of existed if logic were present, i agree to disagree.

Gotta love mistakes.

RockySDS 02-13-2015 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2131392)
Top notch build. Wich ecu have? Im very curious about the auto blip.
Congrats

Stock ECU, tuned on ECUTEK by Delicious Tuning. Just got done talking with somebody else about this feature and it's impressive, once you learn to use it. To activate it you need to have your foot on the brake. If you're use to blipping before punching the clutch, it's a difficult transition lol

Koa 02-13-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 2131407)
As someone who wouldn't of existed if logic were present, i agree to disagree.

Gotta love mistakes.

you aren't a mistake bro bro.

and I don't disagree with you, just letting you know how I feel about it. There's no right or wrong

strat61caster 02-13-2015 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat (Post 2131281)
Way more work than what it is worth unless you're doing an over-the-top build.

I'm glad people are pushing the envelope, the guys who blow up the engines doing 600 horses are going to learn stuff that helps the rest of us get reliable horsepower gains. Getting 200+ horsepower to the wheels on this car makes it quite formidable in the right hands (and it's already pretty quick stock), if the aftermarket can get us up to 300 at the wheels reliably (with the $$$ of course) we have a giant killer.



inb4 LSX swap

RockySDS 02-13-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2131392)
Top notch build. Wich ecu have? Im very curious about the auto blip.
Congrats

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2131482)
I'm glad people are pushing the envelope, the guys who blow up the engines doing 600 horses are going to learn stuff that helps the rest of us get reliable horsepower gains. Getting 200+ horsepower to the wheels on this car makes it quite formidable in the right hands (and it's already pretty quick stock), if the aftermarket can get us up to 300 at the wheels reliably (with the $$$ of course) we have a giant killer.



inb4 LSX swap

I like to think that our team has developed a platform where we're not just going to "blow it up". Didn't over engineer, just built it to handle a specific target.

strat61caster 02-13-2015 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockySDS (Post 2131651)
I like to think that our team has developed a platform where we're not just going to "blow it up". Didn't over engineer, just built it to handle a specific target.

Apologies, didn't mean to imply as such.

Only meant to emphasize that the guys pushing the limits deserve praise, the rest of us reap the rewards of the research you guys are doing.

:cheers:
:burnrubber:

Hotrodheart 02-13-2015 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porcupint (Post 2131343)
Three engines and you only got 600 horsepower out of it?

Yeah. They make 200 hp apiece. Remember, totally stock.

babydriver 02-13-2015 09:32 PM

Frankly, 600+ hp in a street legal (in Texas, anyway) 2700 pound car is truly frightening! It is a thing of beauty, though. Massive congratulations!

Porcupint 02-14-2015 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydriver (Post 2131798)
Frankly, 600+ hp in a street legal (in Texas, anyway) 2700 pound car is truly frightening! It is a thing of beauty, though. Massive congratulations!

To put it in comparison, a McLaren P1 has a power to weight around 3.64 lbs per horsepower vs this which has about 4.5 lbs per horsepower.

Now remember this doesn't have the super sophisticated traction control system and computers that the P1 does to control all that power. "Truly frightening!" might be an understatement.

Pat 02-14-2015 02:29 AM

Id like to compare area under the curves for both cars

kiichiro 02-14-2015 11:37 AM

nice

RockySDS 02-16-2015 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2131701)
Apologies, didn't mean to imply as such.

Only meant to emphasize that the guys pushing the limits deserve praise, the rest of us reap the rewards of the research you guys are doing.

:cheers:
:burnrubber:

All good man. The whole point of this build is to pave the way for us FA20 guys and push the platform to the limit. Hopefully we all get some good data and insight to help everybody out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydriver (Post 2131798)
Frankly, 600+ hp in a street legal (in Texas, anyway) 2700 pound car is truly frightening! It is a thing of beauty, though. Massive congratulations!

Yes, this car may even be "legit for texas" haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porcupint (Post 2132004)
To put it in comparison, a McLaren P1 has a power to weight around 3.64 lbs per horsepower vs this which has about 4.5 lbs per horsepower.

Now remember this doesn't have the super sophisticated traction control system and computers that the P1 does to control all that power. "Truly frightening!" might be an understatement.

:bellyroll:

Defuser 02-16-2015 03:29 PM

I'd like to see how all that power gets turned into motion. Will there just be a massive burn-out and wall of smoke...wheels spinning ferociously as the rubber refuses to grip?

I met a guy 20 years ago who put a Corvette engine into a Porsche 918. His main issue was keeping rubber in contact with the pavement, and that was with the engine much closer to the rear wheels.

In any case, this build is impressive and I look forward to seeing the results.

Koa 02-16-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockySDS (Post 2131651)
I like to think that our team has developed a platform where we're not just going to "blow it up". Didn't over engineer, just built it to handle a specific target.

think what you want mate, the proof will be in the pudding.. can't wait to see how the system ages :)

nobody here surely will say it's not a nice as hell build. top notch

Braces 02-16-2015 03:47 PM

Need to take it out to a drag strip and hopefully get the power to the pavement. I would be real curious to see your 1/4 mile times. Thanks for posting.

Porcupint 02-16-2015 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defuser (Post 2134472)
I'd like to see how all that power gets turned into motion. Will there just be a massive burn-out and wall of smoke...wheels spinning ferociously as the rubber refuses to grip?

Certainly going to need a final drive swap. What you lose in "acceleration" will be made up for by not completely overwhelming the tires.

babydriver 02-18-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockySDS (Post 2134305)


Yes, this car may even be "legit for texas" haha



:bellyroll:

All you have to do here is pass the inspection, which includes the most superficial emission test I've ever seen. Considering some of the ridiculous trucks I've seen on the road, not to mention the old cars around here belching blue and black smoke, surely this badass FR-S would pass.

hmong337 02-24-2015 03:06 AM

How is the gearbox taking 4x the power?

This is literally my dream FRS build. 400whp on 91 pump gas!

Thank you guys for such detailed and in depth information. Truly an asset to our community.

Cheers.


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