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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2100930)

I hate you sometimes squidrogue..

My opinion goes back and forth between simply young and naïve or really, really good troll all the time!
I apparently need a more sensitive Torllometer as mine only goes to 10,000 disbelievawatts and Squady may be coming in higher.

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Originally Posted by kiichiro (Post 2100937)

Hey look it's everyone's favorite dbag who continues to hang around here to try and prove something :D

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Originally Posted by kiichiro (Post 2100937)

Wow, the bitter ex owner's are coming out of the woodwork lately!

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2100941)

Wow, the bitter ex owner's are coming out of the woodwork lately!

He's like the ex who can't get over her so he keeps trying to talk bad to the other guys who are having fun...

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Originally Posted by LucidMomentum (Post 2100964)

He's like the ex who can't get over her so he keeps trying to talk bad to the other guys who are having fun...

And judging by the cars that he lists now he is also the guy that after the divorce hooks up with the high priced, high maintenance slut that looks really good so he must show off even though the other guys may know better.

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Originally Posted by SquadRogue (Post 2100755)

Yeah, I hope somebody has some facts for the FR-S

Yes, sharp prolonged turning at speeds will suck oil away form the uptake and if you are FI and pulling additional oil to a turbo you will want to install a baffle to help mitigate this.

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Originally Posted by boogle (Post 2100826)

OK in the purest sense, if you put 'an car' in a centrifuge you'd eventually find the point where n Gs will trigger oil starvation in a cylinder head.

However, in the real world it's not just how many Gs, but the oil pressure (lots of contributing factors) mixed with the Gs (and angle), mixed with the design of the engine that will decide whether you get oil starvation and where it is. OP asked about this particular car, and oil starvation in the heads due to the boxer layout. In this case it just isn't going to happen. If you've got a heavily modified car in extreme circumstances you can get oil starvation... in the crank. Real world is just never as simple as a single force.

So as mentioned earlier by evan, a stock FRS/BRZ isn't going to get oil starvation due to hard banking.

Sorry, but it purely about the Lateral G-force and the RPMs.
It has zero to do with HP, EXCEPT - that High HP engines require more consistent oiling due to greater forces within the engine (which has little to do with lateral G-force)

So High HP engines are more susceptible to oil starvation.

Back on topic: IF you have oil starvation issues (you probably wouldnt know it unless you have an oil pressure sensor and log the data), then the solution for racers is an accusump.
If air is ingested by the sump pickup, the accusump will "burp" extra oil to keep the pressure up until the bubble clears the system.
Of course, the accusump can only do this for a few seconds, so a long sustained curve could still cause starvation.

Of course, the BEST solution is a drysump system with a resivoir & dual oil pumps.

My reaction to Squadrogue threads.

http://uboachan.net/x/src/1342561405979.gif

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Originally Posted by kiichiro (Post 2100937)

my biggest problem was not oil & g forces, it was fuel and g forces

DAMN LEFT TURNS

I setup the car to handle like a beast, it did just that

sold the car because the fuel system is crap and no pump any vendor sells you is gonna fix that, it wasnt worth it for me to throw a motor at the car and a proper return type fuel setup(new custom fuel cell or new fabbed up tanks in oe spot etc), which was my next and only possible step; tracking the FA20 in stock form has its limits, the weakest link is the tranny, then fuel then motor. fix all three and I would have kept both our brz

a vette motor swap was on the table but for that money plus our trade we are making a cayman s into a track car that will easily EAT any frs or brz no matter how buit up...(adding quaife or guard LSD, JRZ coilovers,---> evoms rs350 kit<--- just wow etc etc) all for same money as trackifying a 86, proper

and no left turn fuel starvation, I dont miss that one bit!

If you hate (and SOLD) the car WHY are you still visiting the forum?
Bitter breakup huh?
I'll bet it was repossessed and you just dont want to admit it....

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Originally Posted by stugray (Post 2101007)

If you hate (and SOLD) the car WHY are you still visiting the forum?
Bitter breakup huh?
I'll bet it was repossessed and you just dont want to admit it....

Because he has a Porsche, so he has to be having more fun than we are. He wants to make sure we understand that.

Pics or it didn't happen, anyways.

At least kiichiro is claiming some kind of knowledge, the rest of you are armchair quarterbacking about your daily drivers.

And what he says makes sense, in this car you will likely fuel starve before you run into oil issues on stock powertrain.

Anyone thought at that speed the car can oversteer?

The OP is why I have no hope for this country.

People like CSG, Robispec, and Element have cornered faster than you probably ever will without reporting oil starvation from turning. Element has dealt with oil pressure issues, but that's due to engine power, not turning.