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gravitylover 10-27-2015 09:14 PM

I buy the filter from a local Subie dealer the same day I do the oil change and use a cc for the purchase that way I have two ways to confirm the date. I figure as long as I have a firm purchase date and a consistent story I have a leg up if I need it.

johatan25 11-05-2015 09:41 PM

I was able to get them to fix it!!! Thank God!
Brand new engine in a couple of days :D

Tcoat 11-05-2015 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 2433815)
I buy the filter from a local Subie dealer the same day I do the oil change and use a cc for the purchase that way I have two ways to confirm the date. I figure as long as I have a firm purchase date and a consistent story I have a leg up if I need it.

Some guy on here said he takes a pic of the oil and filer receipt beside the odometer. Always thought that was a great idea.

BRZnut 11-05-2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johatan25 (Post 2443379)
I was able to get them to fix it!!! Thank God!
Brand new engine in a couple of days :D

Wow ...great news. Let us know how it all turns out!

thambu19 11-06-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronos (Post 2115939)
Is there any general consensus about what a tune does as far as engine warranty goes.

I'm sure if you had some turbo and a shit tune they would not honor the warranty. But I'm stock and have an OFT stage 1 tune, which if anything, makes the engine safer than some of the versions of the stock tune .

@Kronos
Did you say you had an OFT tune and the dealer did not detect it? Or the dealer did not care? I have been itching to flash mine with the OFT but only reason that kept me from doing it was I thought it would void my factory warranty on my 2013 FRS. Can you shed more light?

sam69 11-07-2015 10:23 PM

An update on the FA motor that my friend built is a bit of a concern.

It was decided for various reasons that the timing cover needed to come off to check something after it had been fitted .

Silastic had been applied to all surfaces including the main oil gallery from the block to the timing cover where the oil pump is located with the O'ring installed.

On removal of the timing cover it was found that the mating surfaces between the block and the timing cover for the oil gallery did not meet as NONE of the silastic was squished out from the mating surfaces if that makes sense.
It could be seen that the O'ring was only just contacting on one side by a hairline so this could be another point for oil starvation as the oil pump could possibly suck air at this point . :thumbdown:

Will try to get some pics up if people are interested.

BRZnut 11-07-2015 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sam69 (Post 2445052)
An update on the FA motor that my friend built is a bit of a concern.

It was decided for various reasons that the timing cover needed to come off to check something after it had been fitted .

Silastic had been applied to all surfaces including the main oil gallery from the block to the timing cover where the oil pump is located with the O'ring installed.

On removal of the timing cover it was found that the mating surfaces between the block and the timing cover for the oil gallery did not meet as NONE of the silastic was squished out from the mating surfaces if that makes sense.
It could be seen that the O'ring was only just contacting on one side by a hairline so this could be another point for oil starvation as the oil pump could possibly suck air at this point . :thumbdown:

Will try to get some pics up if people are interested.


I think I understand what you found but pics would be great

Shibby 01-31-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sam69 (Post 2445052)
An update on the FA motor that my friend built is a bit of a concern.

It was decided for various reasons that the timing cover needed to come off to check something after it had been fitted .

Silastic had been applied to all surfaces including the main oil gallery from the block to the timing cover where the oil pump is located with the O'ring installed.

On removal of the timing cover it was found that the mating surfaces between the block and the timing cover for the oil gallery did not meet as NONE of the silastic was squished out from the mating surfaces if that makes sense.
It could be seen that the O'ring was only just contacting on one side by a hairline so this could be another point for oil starvation as the oil pump could possibly suck air at this point . :thumbdown:

Will try to get some pics up if people are interested.

I had an oil leak on the bottom drivers side of the timing cover so I had the dealership fix it under warranty. This same thing ended up happening and I spun a bearing. Now the car is in the shop getting a new short block as I type this. First thing I'm doing is installing my oil cooler that I didn't get to install because it was missing the banjo fittings for the sandwich plate, THANK GOD, and I'm gonna install an Innovate oil temp/pressure combo gauge. Maybe I'll get a thermostatic oil sandwich plate too. Here's hoping they don't throw my Fumoto drain valve away..

ermax 01-31-2018 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shibby (Post 3037077)
I had an oil leak on the bottom drivers side of the timing cover so I had the dealership fix it under warranty. This same thing ended up happening and I spun a bearing. Now the car is in the shop getting a new short block as I type this. First thing I'm doing is installing my oil cooler that I didn't get to install because it was missing the banjo fittings for the sandwich plate, THANK GOD, and I'm gonna install an Innovate oil temp/pressure combo gauge. Maybe I'll get a thermostatic oil sandwich plate too. Here's hoping they don't throw my Fumoto drain valve away..



Wait so you’re saying that common timing cover leak caused you to leak enough oil to spin a rod bearing? How often do you check your oil? I have this leak but it’s hardly enough to notice a loss between oil changes much less routine oil level checks. At the rate mine is leaking it would probably take years to get to a critical level.

humfrz 01-31-2018 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ermax (Post 3037108)
Wait so you’re saying that common timing cover leak caused you to leak enough oil to spin a rod bearing? How often do you check your oil? I have this leak but it’s hardly enough to notice a loss between oil changes much less routine oil level checks. At the rate mine is leaking it would probably take years to get to a critical level.

What he says makes a bit more sense if you read the post he was referring to:

"Originally Posted by sam69
An update on the FA motor that my friend built is a bit of a concern.

It was decided for various reasons that the timing cover needed to come off to check something after it had been fitted .

Silastic had been applied to all surfaces including the main oil gallery from the block to the timing cover where the oil pump is located with the O'ring installed.

On removal of the timing cover it was found that the mating surfaces between the block and the timing cover for the oil gallery did not meet as NONE of the silastic was squished out from the mating surfaces if that makes sense.
It could be seen that the O'ring was only just contacting on one side by a hairline so this could be another point for oil starvation as the oil pump could possibly suck air at this point .

Will try to get some pics up if people are interested."

At least it did to me .....;)


humfrz

Shibby 01-31-2018 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ermax (Post 3037108)
Wait so you’re saying that common timing cover leak caused you to leak enough oil to spin a rod bearing? How often do you check your oil? I have this leak but it’s hardly enough to notice a loss between oil changes much less routine oil level checks. At the rate mine is leaking it would probably take years to get to a critical level.

No, I'm saying they put too much sealant on when resealing the cover and partially blocked the oil passage. I checked my oil very often when I had the leak but it was really just a slow seep just like yours. I literally had 150 miles on a fresh oil change when it happened. I changed my oil every 3300 miles on average. The engine had 56k when it happened. NA.

ermax 01-31-2018 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shibby (Post 3037126)
No, I'm saying they put too much sealant on when resealing the cover and partially blocked the oil passage. I checked my oil very often when I had the leak but it was really just a slow seep just like yours. I literally had 150 miles on a fresh oil change when it happened. I changed my oil every 3300 miles on average. The engine had 56k when it happened. NA.



Oh okay I’ve gotcha. Eventually I will pull my cover and repack it. Its just not leaking enough to motivate me to go through the hassle yet. I hate doing FIPG’s. Cleaning up the old mess is a pain, applying it is a pain. Bump it on install and you get to redo part of it. Ugh. At least doing it myself I will have the peace of mind knowing someone didn’t blob massive quantities of packing on it.

Dammod 02-01-2018 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shibby (Post 3037126)
No, I'm saying they put too much sealant on when resealing the cover and partially blocked the oil passage. I checked my oil very often when I had the leak but it was really just a slow seep just like yours. I literally had 150 miles on a fresh oil change when it happened. I changed my oil every 3300 miles on average. The engine had 56k when it happened. NA.

I took my car in to the dealers to fix my timing chain cover leak and I think this is EXACTLY what happened to me - especially since they attempted to fix it multiple times.

Around 1500 km after the last time they "fixed" it - I was driving along, and got the dreaded bearing knock noise.

humfrz 02-01-2018 03:33 AM

I'm thinking that if I ever get a timing cover leak, I'm just going to tape a sponge over the leak and change it every now and then ...........:sigh:


humfrz


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