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DFW-FRS 01-19-2015 10:44 PM

Stock Motor is Toast (Spun Rod Bearing)
 
I've had my FRS since July of 2013 and after 25,000 miles the rods started knocking and we discovered a spun rod bearing. The Toyota dealership said "they've never seen anything like it" lol. Anyways, they agreed to replace my entire short block for free, updated my ECU, and put me in a 2015 Corolla S, which must have stood for "shit" because that thing has no business being called sporty. Not sure how I feel about my FRS now, but I've already broken in the new block with about 1,500 miles. If I wanted to blow up a boxer engine I would have gotten a WRX, but I digress.

Link to service receipt: http://i.imgur.com/R9kx0OW.jpg

gravitylover 01-19-2015 10:57 PM

So does the warranty on the motor now go for another 36k or does it still end when the car hits 36?

DFW-FRS 01-19-2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 2097255)
So does the warranty on the motor now go for another 36k or does it still end when the car hits 36?

It ends at 36,000:sigh:

mmmcambelsoup 01-20-2015 11:33 AM

Not much experience w/ 'rods knocking'.. what would you say your symptoms were or what to look for? I push my car pretty hard occasionally with oft e85 tune. Just want to make sure I know what to look for.

zc06_kisstherain 01-20-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DFW-FRS (Post 2097258)
It ends at 36,000:sigh:

WTF...
that's not right
replacement part should have another guaranteed warranty again.

Dadhawk 01-20-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 2097255)
So does the warranty on the motor now go for another 36k or does it still end when the car hits 36?

Drive train goes to 60K. 32K is bumper to bumper.

Jesse36m3 01-20-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mmmcambelsoup (Post 2097745)
Not much experience w/ 'rods knocking'.. what would you say your symptoms were or what to look for? I push my car pretty hard occasionally with oft e85 tune. Just want to make sure I know what to look for.


Let me just say if you had problems, you'd hear it.


There's nothing to "look for," it just starts happening when the bearing tolerances become larger due to oil starvation mostly. All that extra space between the con rod and crank will cause a metal clanking sound and will get louder and faster with more engine rpm.


That, or just a fluke at the factory.

tennisfreak 01-20-2015 03:45 PM

If it were my car I'd be looking to trade it.

ZZT86 01-20-2015 09:05 PM

What caused the failure ?

FirestormFRS 01-20-2015 09:54 PM

Bottom ends don't fail easily. They're pretty much bullet proof at stock levels unless they are starved for oil.

marky 01-23-2015 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 2098663)
What caused the failure ?

That's what I'm trtrying to figure out also....

They took my motor apart and crank case turned blue do to lack of lubrication and oil starvation.. my car had good oil level also.. no check engine lights btw..
32999.. http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...psuuaukjui.jpg

BRZnut 01-25-2015 08:22 PM

Did any of you have a Cam issue/CEL before the engine failure?

marky 01-25-2015 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZnut (Post 2105016)
Did any of you have a Cam issue/CEL before the engine failure?

Nope.. no CEL nothing.. they didn't mention anything about the cams.. forgot to look into it..

DFW-FRS 02-01-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmcambelsoup (Post 2097745)
Not much experience w/ 'rods knocking'.. what would you say your symptoms were or what to look for? I push my car pretty hard occasionally with oft e85 tune. Just want to make sure I know what to look for.

I was in fourth gear doing about 50 MPH when I downshifted, accelerated, and heard a strange rotating rattling noise coming from the engine bay. I turned down my radio and the rattling turned into loud violent knocking. The car died in motion and I lost power to everything. Luckily it was on an empty Texas highway.

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Originally Posted by Jesse36m3 (Post 2097896)
Let me just say if you had problems, you'd hear it.


There's nothing to "look for," it just starts happening when the bearing tolerances become larger due to oil starvation mostly. All that extra space between the con rod and crank will cause a metal clanking sound and will get louder and faster with more engine rpm.


That, or just a fluke at the factory.

This man speaks the truth.

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Originally Posted by tennisfreak (Post 2098184)
If it were my car I'd be looking to trade it.

It's a lease so I'm not worried about it. I do worry that it will happen again though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 2098663)
What caused the failure ?

Car was somehow starved for oil and spun a rod bearing. The techs blamed it on my old 2012 factory tune. Apparently there was an ECU update that I never received.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirestormFRS (Post 2098749)
Bottom ends don't fail easily. They're pretty much bullet proof at stock levels unless they are starved for oil.

True.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZnut (Post 2105016)
Did any of you have a Cam issue/CEL before the engine failure?

None at all. I've only had ignition coil failure in two cylinders prior to this.


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