Ace 4-2-1 Header
 

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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1447829835
Type B 350: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...der-lhd-detail

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Type B 250: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...and-rhd-detail

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1447829835

Type B 150: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...and-rhd-detail

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Type A 350: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...-header-detail

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Type A 250: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...and-rhd-detail

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1447829835

Type A 150: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...and-rhd-detail

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1447829835

350 OP: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...er-pipe-detail

250 OP: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...er-pipe-detail

150 OP: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...er-pipe-detail

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1447829835

Frontpipe: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...nt-pipe-detail

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Motor mount: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...pcs-set-detail

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Transmission mount: http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...1pc-set-detail


See here for Ace Type A and Type B 150 250 350 dyno reviews and results:
http://aceheader.blogspot.tw/2015/11...rmation_17.htm

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Best sounding BRZ exhaust

Who is selling them in the US?

please convert dyno sheet to read ft-lbs for torque. xie xie.

144.66 ft-lb
177 HP

Googled that for you.

its not the same when reading the chart. you want to google me 16 and 16, 17 and 17, 18, 19 and 19??? maybe you should LOOK at the chart instead of looking a peak numbers.

DWX- No official distributor yet. We can drop ship for $95 anywhere in the world with delivery in 3-5 business days.

SWARB- I'll ask the dyno shop but I'm not sure if they can. bu hao yi si

Get over it. Everyone else in the world has deal with reading U.S. charts in lb-ft.

Dear America,

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But back to the point though, how much does this cost?

thanks for the charts guys!
http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-fr-s-br-z
It's in AMERICAN dollars so have fun calculating that! ;)

Quick someone rub my eyes! That torque curve is out of this world!

Can you put the comparison with your 4-1 header back up?

But back to the point though, how much does this cost?[/QUOTE]

Header is $1100
OP (required) is $300

I'll still ask the question about ft/lbs. Not a bad thing to have for reference anyway

Sure thing.

Top curve= 4-into-1 with ACE muffler (not for sale yet)
Mid curve= 4-into-1 with muffler delete
Low curve= 4-into-1 with stock muffler
All pulls with Stock ECU and K&N air filter

The parts, photos and pricing will be listed on the website this week. We just started production today and will post photos of jigs and progress throughout.

Ummm....ain't that hard actually :)

http://www.onlineconversion.com/torque.htm

Here you go, you can do it yourself. Make sure you report back with your findings.

Edit- November 2015

Here is an updated view of all the dyno and posts regarding the Ace Header Type A or Type B 150 250 or 350. Some are for superchargers but no Turbo information yet.

Best header reviews for BRZ / FT-86 are still found by searching FT86club.com or google.

More information can be found at:
http://aceheader.blogspot.tw/
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88696
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96255

What was the exhaust setup on the 4-2-1 header dyno posted in the first post if this thread?

Why is the overpipe required?

Can you post a pic of the primary merges?

I'm assuming these are stainless steel, what grade of steel are they?

My guess is they designed their header/overpipe with max primary length, so their combo will meet up with the stock frontpipe, but not the standard overpipe.

Mine as well. Still, I'd like to know for sure.

I think the car was strapped too tightly based on the wavy torque curve :burnrubber:

Love these headers, wish they were out (or I knew about them) before I got my first production run nameless header......

Lol we really are overly fucking difficult here in the states. All of our systems suck.

THIS IS WHY THE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE WINNING :lol:

Their overripe is two into one. Look at the picture. The header goes 4 into 2. Then the overpipe goes 2 into 1.

I didn't realize it went that far back, thanks.

Neat idea. Wonder how long it will take a certain miami area shop to copy this one.

Calum- More pics coming soon, we've busy making the welding jigs and getting production up and running.

Material is #304 brushed alloy. Info on website. We can also polish but found that the polished doesn't deal as well with heat at the brushed


Correct, we should really call it the 4-into-2-into-1. OP is the wrong term

Thank you for even mentioning us in the same sentence:)


Not worried. Visually a regular BMW and Alpina look similar. Consider these headers blue-printed.


Some photos of the production jigs getting ready. Some welds will be done with the robot, but over 70% is still hand welded. Last photo is some test samples for the 4-1 header we were playing with.

forgot the photos

Nice to see something original instead of another stock header copy with a jacked up price.

One more question, please. What was the exhaust setup used for the dynos posted in the first post?

4-2-1
Header- http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...-header-detail
Front Pipe- http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...nt-pipe-detail
Mid Pipe- OEM
Muffler- ACE 160mmOD twin tip muffler (not released yet)

4-1
Header- http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...-header-detail
OP- http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...er-pipe-detail
Front Pipe- http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...nt-pipe-detail
Mid Pipe- OEM
Muffler:
Top curve= ACE 160mmOD twin tip muffler (not released yet)
Mid curve= muffler delete
Low curve= OEM muffler

Again, all pulls with Stock ECU and K&N air filter. We will dyno again with Delicious Stage 2 and post results when we get a chance. Probably won't be for a while as the we're in winter re-build stage and the car is in pieces.

4-2-1 dyno pull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUB0...ature=youtu.be

Interesting design. So this should increase the header pipe length, which should produce a flatter torque curve vs the shorter headers most of the aftermarket employs? The dyno looks a bit funky, but that's what it appears to be doing if I'm reading it right.

Will be interesting to see what kind of results occur with a tune. Peak HP/TQ is nice and all, but I'd rather have a flatter, more predictable torque curve personally, and this looks promising in that regard.

I really like this.. Something to keep in mind as I'm doing headers sometime in the summer.

Sweat Jesus that setup is quite.

Does the header(421) come wrapped as it is in the photos?

So that dyno is the 4-2-1 header with a tune. That torque "rollercoaster"? is quite horrendous IMO.

The design is impressive; however, the numbers are not. Once again, my opinion.

@AceHeader-MT: any way to do... local pickup?

I am going back to Taiwan in August and may be interested in picking it up. Can probably ship for others worldwide if paid in advance.

Thanks.

-alex

To all you metric lovers, how many kW is this?

Serious note:

Curious why no photos of the primary merges.

Also dyno graphs that don't start the power and torque at zero are EXTREMELY deceptive in comparisons.

Just saying...

The dyno is without a tune.

Part of the reason is the graphs don't start at zero. We are basically zoomed in, which magnifies the changes. Useful technique for visually looking much better than a competitor if your advantage is small. But the side effect is amplifying the ups and downs.

A graph starting from zero would show that the roller coaster isn't that crazy. But also that there's a negligible difference with 'Brand X'.

In short, meh.

Yes, the header comes wrapped. But only if requested:)

That particular header came off the car after the Tsukuba and Suzuka runs.

It's the latest revision of our design so the other un-wrapped versions are slightly different. We didn't want to post photos of inferior parts

Production set-up should be finished in a few weeks. After that we'll post better photos of the header, runners and collector