Weapons Grade Performance Plug and Play LS Harness....
 

Alright for those who know of my thread, I have gone from NA to E85 NA then to E85 STS Rear Mount and then finally LS Conversion which I hope to have finished soon but yet again I have another setback.

I am building my own Swap pieces but when it came to the harness I knew my time would be taken else where so I called Weapons Grade Performance and after quite some time we came to an agreement for me to buy there Harness. Now in the Text Messages I still have I was told 1000 because it was 700+ to have his harness company build a harness from my GM Donor Harness. I agreed and sent him everything including a piece I mistook for the PCM. I ensured my Tach would work and everything would be like stock. We even talked about the CEL working using the Factory Clusters indicator and the LS ECU.

After about 60 days I got back a box from a company called Current Performance for the modification of my GM Harness... for 470.00. (Came with the invoice) but that was it. The harness looked decent I didn't like that they left some of the old wire that showed use but the rest of the work looked clean.
I did not get my FRS Harness back nor did I get any explanation. So I asked the owner via text (He seems to prefer communication in that method) and I was told it was a mistake and that he would pay to ship it back to him or I could finish it myself.... I told him that I felt he should finish it. This was the end of November.

Next we have today, I got the harness back finally and this is what 530.00 of plug and play wiring got me:
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That's right ladies and Gentleman, 3 wires connected and nothing more! That is a Plug and Play harness for the FRS! There is nothing in the box, I was promised an email to detail further wiring but that never came and honestly I just expected it to be a "Remember to connect the power and grounds, you will need to disable the following items using your EcuTek license in the factory PCM etc. Not this.

Now this is all on top of when the package from current first came back I found my Direct Injection Controller Damaged as so. I wasn't to upset because I would not be using it but the fact that they did this and how my harness came back... WTF is this? 1000 for a Plug and Play setup, 530 just to Weapons Grade and what I got was 3 wires connected and the rest of my harness trashed and here we are.... This is no way makes my life easier!!!!!!! :mad0260:
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I could have had a local company build a harness from scratch for less than 700 for the GM/LS Swap. I could have then looked at aftermarket gauge clusters and avoided all of this but I wanted the whole stock look because I really like the FRS as it is but this is what I have folks... this is my end result.

This is a piece of shit. I want to send this Harness and the Direct Injection Controller back get my 1000 back and paid for the free harness (Both GM and FRS) I basically provided we can say 150 and we part ways. I will have a new harness built for my existing PCM and just go from there.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=58591&page=6

wow. wtf

So I have heard from WGP. I will end up having to show all the text messages. (I am going to look into an app to make this easier than taking a ton of screen shots)

The first thing was "The harness from current performance cost 89x.xx, I did this for 100." He sent me this link:
http://www.currentperformance.com/sh...ss-bare-bones/

If you notice it's 550-730. But the bigger thing is that its for a built from scratch harness not built from your existing harness. I pointed that out he stopped mentioning it. (I sent a screen shot of the built from scratch and price off the web page)

Then he told me I was paying for his expertise, it wasn't free. I reminded him I paid him his asking price and got the above. He claims there is more to connect and he didn't know my layout, there should have been a piece of paper in the box. (Now remember he already said he would be sending me an email back in December with instructions, which he never did)

Now he is saying he had unrealistic expectations of my comfort level. Really, this is my comfort level. I put that to bed quick quickly pointing out this was a lack of effort on his end.

So I have been lead down quite a few reasons with no backing in the last 15 minutes of texting or so and yet I have nothing more than a waste of 1000.00 and lies along with pot shots at my so called comfort level.

Thanks so much Weapons Grade! I can see you really made my life easier.

Damn man... that really blows. I've been following your build and waiting to see how it all turns out. That really sucks that you are going through it, but thanks for letting others know.

I don't know how a business could ship something like that to a customer.

Holy shit.

After everything I found out more items have to be bought to make this work, I was offered to pay for two sensors and the rest would be done. I am supposed to know more tomorrow.

At this point I want to believe it's being handled and sometimes things just go wrong but they are going to fix it. Let's see if that carries through, I have to admit though at this point I am not sure just what to expect when I get done with all this.

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Shit, you should do it. Not like anything worse can happen....?

"I've seen more complete harnesses from charred chassis' "

- ANONYMOUS

x2

Insanity

And people wonder why they got banned so long ago...


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But they build GTRs! lol.

On a serious note, sorry to see your harness look like this. It's hard to believe anyone would deem a harness in that condition shippable. Charging you to farm out a harness mod is shady enough already...But that is just crazy.

Hope it comes to an easy resolution.

Can we downgrade them from Weapons Grade to Childs Grade?

AFAIK, they didn't even get numbers for their ls2 brz. They blew it up immediately with a 150 shot of NOS.

still too high of a qualification. I wonder if they could even correctly wire up a phone charger. in a 12 volt socket. labeled "Phone Charger"

that shit looks like a kindergarten science project
@Cross you using an android phone? If so msg me il got an app to get all the txt msgs thats works really well i did it with fa20club and my ex-wife

Typical aftermarket bs

Apparently anyone with $20 of wire can start a business :bellyroll:

I am on Android that would be perfect, I took pictures of the recites and there is a lot more in his texts with me where I have caught multiple stories being fabricated.

At the end of the day I just want what I paid for, if he finally get's it there then I will be fine with it. But at this point even building the sensor piece I am missing I keep coming back to the back that the cluster still needs information on the Airbags, TCS, Coolant Temp and more so that everything functions as it would stock. I do believe many of these items might be self contained but now I am the one left to handle this as that is what I paid him to do so I could focus on the K-Member we are making, etc.

We shall see what tomorrow holds when I convey all this and start asking pointed questions again.

I don't know that I would be able to trust a shop that shipped me such crap with something as important as the main harness. You probably don't have much choice at this point. Hope it works out for you.

Updates?

Nothing yet either way, I keep focusing on the k member we are making and forgetting to check back in on this.

It's amazing how good some vendors look on paper until you give them your money. I had a simliar experience with APR and their BS (among others). So much for doing what you love and sharing that love with your customers.

geez this is some weapons grade bulls**t...

Has anyone actually ever had this company install an LS? Not to knock them or anything but I remember seeing their first few videos, then prices, and then never heard of any sales...

weapons grade

That's bullshit dude, seems like it's impossible to find good wiring people these days.
Hopefully everything gets worked out and they get you to where you should be.

Still have not heard anything from them

Failing Grade Performance :)

Dispute this as a vendor significant nonperformance claim with your CC company, and start the return process.. they're being negligent and you have the upper hand here, given you've documented everything

nothing like police knocking down their door to get your money back...

So this morning I happened to be up when Weapons Grade decided to text me saying he will not be finishing the job because he saw this thread. (Not like I have tried to hide it)

Since that is the path he has chosen to take I have chosen to make a complete posting of everything that happened, all the pictures and put it all together to show exactly how this has taken place.

As of just a second ago he is now trying to hold the remaining items for his supposed kit over my head to keep payment and saying I should not threaten him. He wants this thread deleted and he will finish the job.

So you paid for items and he's not going to send them?

Isn't that theft? Or something?

He is still texting me, apparently I guess he thought I was just going to apologize and beg him to finish, I have no intention of doing that.
However if he can stand up and admit to the BS, admit he screwed up and made a mistake then handle it I will let everything go. Was it an ideal transaction at that point, no but things happen and I can be very understanding to a point. He is at that point, where he has to ask if his Ego is worth overriding his Integrity.

Attached are the pictures of the invoice showing the company he paid to redo the GM harness charged 470 not the 700-800 he claims. I honestly don't care in the end how much profit he made, just that he delivered what was promised.

Currently he promises to return the stock harness, the bracket needed for the tach and to finish the deal.

In return I will delete my posts and this thread. I agreed upon a completed deal.

So we shall see what happens. The deal is for a complete setup, everything inside working as it should and the CEL setup although I am guessing I will end up doing that myself.

Let's see if this happens.

Hahaha! US of A.. Land of those who are welcome to criticize the performance of others who render you services (and freely choose to render you services) and enjoy community visibility in the process. Haven't they heard???

That is a bit of a despotic response.

You shouldn't delete this thread... that's the whole point of a review. If he made it right, good on him, but you shouldn't mask the shortcomings.

You know, it sucks if you delete this thread, because it will help potential future customers make a more informed decision (like me, I'm thinking of doing LS swap someday).

On the other hand, good for you this thread has given you leverage with these F'n dead beats at Weapons Grade Performance. Also, in the end if they don't complete, you could always switch to Vorschlag, I bet the quality would be better and I would rather entrust them with my car and pay some more than stick with WGP.

Updates?

I was told he is finishing everything else, apparently an employee took an unannounced break.