FRS rally car
 

Hi guy I am new to the 86 community and forums for that matter. I would like to get someone to guide me in the right direction. I want to turn my 2014 FRS into a rally car. Nothing too crazy because it is my DD. It is mainly because I like the look and I like to go out into the desert to shoot. I am tired for asking people for rides out there and paying range fees. I have done research about what I need to do this but haven't found much. I have found rally FRS/BRS's but they don't say what parts they used or what to consider when building a car like that. So can anyone tell me what I need, venders, or maybe some sites that could help.

Email Nameless Performance they built a rally 86

Good rally suspension is expensive. How bad are the roads we're talking about here?

- Andy

How expensive are we talking about? The roads aren't too bad but I think I will barely make it with a stock set up.

Setting some specific goals will help in guiding you to a solution that will work for you.

Do you need more clearance?
Will an aggressive all-season work or is a off-road capable tire needed?
Is there any need of underbody protection?

From my time dealing with rallycross I can tell you that unless you are flying along roads at 80-90 mph, going off jumps, and in general putting the car through its paces then a decent set of struts and springs will work just fine. Biggest concern is if any lift is needed. I can see 1-2 inches as being the max for this car. You will then need new rear lower control arms and different camber bolts.

As far as underbody protection goes, nobody makes a skid plate like those made for the Impreza. I would pick up a couple decent sized sheets of LDPE and figure out a way to fasten it to the bottom.

Next obstacle is tires. You said desert so I'm guessing rocky/sandy terrain. Normal tires might not work. You are also going to want some flex. I am not sure if the Team Dynamics 15" wheels fit our car but I do know they fit the xv crosstek.

All in all for a basic slight lift, protection, proper tires you will probably be spending upwards of $2-2.5k just to take the car off the road a bit.

I think an aggressive all-season will work best for me since it's a DD. I do need a bit more clearance, I think an inch should be good. I would prefer underbody protection just to be safe.
I will not be going 90 down dirt roads. I haven't paid it off yet.
Any suggestions on where I can get lca and camber bolts? Brands? I have searched for struts and springs but haven't found anything.
I currently have 18" XXRs (531 I think) I also still have the stock rims. I figured I would need 15 or 16 inch rims.
Thank you for your feedback.

That 86 looks awesome but it doesn't give any info on the suspension just the Tune and engine setup.

http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/mot...ars/gt86-cs-r3
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Thanks man this helps a lot. I will start looking for these parts.

LOL those parts are $$$$. That car is meant as a turn-key professional rally car. It comes with a Reiger 3-way setup that is way more than what you want to spend.

I'd contact Nameless to see what they used. I think that car originally came from Australia and I'm not sure they had much to do with the suspension but they should know. I would just use the stock suspension and see how it goes.

I'm not going to build the exact same car lol but something that will work for me. I have been searching for shocks, springs and something to give me more clearance but I haven't found any. I guess not too many people are doing it. I emailed nameless but haven't heard from them.

You can also contact Ground Control, they could probably build you a coilover sleeve+spring setup with longer springs.

for suspension you can look at öhlins or bc racing

The guys from Nameless did an AMA sort of thing on the Jalopnik sub-blog Black Flag recently, and I actually asked them specifically about the suspension setup on their car. Here's the link, and below are the responses: http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/thanks...tup-1661440951

Jason@namless: "Full custom, of our own design. John@Nameless can probably get in here and discuss whatever of the particulars he wants to share, but the meat and potatoes of the system is four MCA Suspension 56mm Gravel Coilovers. A custom design we partnered with MCA to develop based on the lower clevis of a '08-14 WRX and the top hat of the GT-86 - all in a spectacular upright design that is from MCA Suspension, featuring three way adjustable external reservoir dampers. Front and rear dampers are identical with raised strut towers in front and rear to optimize suspension travel.

We use an '08-14 WRX Front Knuckle in both the front and the rear and attach to them with a unique chromoly pin of our own design. Then the control arms are all custom chromoly as is the rear subframe.

The rear suspension is a pretty marvelous thing, John can explain it a lot better than I can as it was his design."

John@nameless: "The suspension is 100% custom made by us. We use MCA coilovers out of Australia hat are built to our specifications mated to WRX front knuckles on all 4 corners. 4130 chromoly suspension arms with custom geometry gives it about 9" of wheel travel and some fancy wheel travel characteristics that set this suspension apart from anything that's been done in rally in the recent past."



Edit: MCA's stuff is really nice, but also really expensive; as any quality rally suspension will be. So I'm not sure their setup will work for you, but I'm guessing they'd have some useful input for you. There's also some guy I've seen on FB groups and Instagram with a lifted BRZ, and it looks like he's likely a more budgeted build. His IG is @Liftedbrz, and I think he might have a FB page too. Probably a good idea to contact him too.

Ok well I heard back from nameless sales and they told me that they don't have anything for sale right now. Some of the things they are working on are still in the testing phase. I will however try to contact John@nameless so I can get informed on what to look for. They were kind enough to refer me to someone that might have what I am looking for.

I also found some coilovers that will allow me to lift the car. They are from feal. http://www.rallyracingsuspension.com/page16.php Its the gravel spec kit. The spring rates they recommend 6/5K. Has anyone heard of them or have any comments?

I am not looking to build a professional rally car. I just want a setup that will allow me to get to the range (which is 2 miles into the desert.) and have a little fun from time to time. Keep in mind that this will also be my daily driver and I haven't paid it off just yet.

I am new to modifying cars so this rally stuff really blow my mind. I am learning more about how everything works. Thanks guy for helping me figure this stuff out.