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zooki 12-23-2014 02:19 PM

Subframe connectors?
 
Does anyone make full length subframe connectors for these cars? Or does the design preclude the fitting of them? I see various braces that either brace the front or the back subframes, but nothing that ties them together. It seem that every unibody type car benefits from tying the two together. Thoughts?

OkieSnuffBox 12-23-2014 02:37 PM

Most modern coupes aren't going to benefit from subframe connectors.


It's not something like your Fox-Body that's based on a chassis designed in the late 70s without real FEA work.


Even the S197 Mustang didn't really benefit from subframe connectors and that car was designed over a decade ago. The S550 is even stiff still.

zooki 12-23-2014 02:47 PM

I was just wondering since TRD sells those little door jamb thingies. It seems that these chassis' flex a bit watching the videos. If the door is flexing that much it would seem the chassis needs a bit of stiffening.

OkieSnuffBox 12-23-2014 02:57 PM

Have any links to the parts/videos you are talking about?

zooki 12-23-2014 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 2066431)
Have any links to the parts/videos you are talking about?

I was reading through this thread:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=28367&page=2

Thee are a couple of videos posted shot from along the door that show it fixing a bit. The second one shows it better.

OkieSnuffBox 12-24-2014 02:32 PM

That looks like the door not being 100% solid on the striker vs chassis flex.

mav1178 12-24-2014 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooki (Post 2066373)
It seem that every unibody type car benefits from tying the two together. Thoughts?

Yes they do, however you have to look at the big picture.

Doing this will result in (or bring up questions of):
- stiffer chassis
- altered crash/crumple zone characteristics
- lack of ground clearance (even more than before)
- how do you measure this without a review that says "it feels stiffer for sure"?
- Who will pay for the R&D for a functional piece?

Subframe mounting points are easy areas to stiffen up with minimal cost involved (i.e. no one will go out and R&D this, they just usually fab bars that fit/work). To do full unibody bracing, you're much better off seam-welding or fabricating a weld-in cage.

-alex


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