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Dark 10-11-2010 04:08 AM

Tell Toyota we don't need Scion FT-86
 
If there any way to get our voice to Toyota that we want it as a Toyota. They can water it down by making another car use same plateform or whatever.
I'm thinking about hit facebook now...

WingsofWar 10-11-2010 05:33 AM

makes me wana just run down to any dealership and punch an employee of Toyota in the face. Stating my hatred. Then get sued. Causing the media to get involved. When news gets out it starts a chain reaction of violent crimes against Toyota across north america. Resulting in FT86 as Toyota branding.

/thread

Matador 10-11-2010 09:52 AM

roflmao... great Idea.

A-Spike 10-11-2010 10:37 AM

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Hmm..."Body Style Changes: Yes, slightly more square.", I found this rendering on a website a while, I think it comes from Mag X or something. Headlights are a bit more square, still I hope it won't look like this concept thing.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/galler...pt_002-851.jpg

Matador 10-11-2010 10:54 AM

That concpet you see there turned out to be the new tC. See now why Scion doesn't need to get it's grubby mitts anywhere near the FT-86?

A-Spike 10-11-2010 11:23 AM

Like the guy on the Toyobaru forum said, this may be Toyota's last try to save Scion, but why to save Scion? And why with this car that should have "injected some driving fun back into Toyota", like Akio Toyoda said.

Dark 10-11-2010 12:35 PM

What a point of giving FT-86 to Scion to save it? It's not even a volume car. If they want, bring Aurion and give it to Scion.

A-Spike 10-11-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 20601)
What a point of giving FT-86 to Scion to save it? It's not even a volume car. If they want, bring Aurion and give it to Scion.

Well, in theory with a car like the FT-86 in it's showrooms, Scion could claim that they mean business, the drift junkies could go buy it and drift it just the way they bought it if they want. A move like that would make the public to see all the Scion cars sporty and exciting, even if they aren't, and would increase the brand's image. However it's Toyota who needs to increase it's sporty brand image, not Scion.

YourFearlessLeader 10-11-2010 01:07 PM

I dont understand what the problem with it being a scion is. The only difference would be the badges. If you cant handle driving a "scion" then you need to grow up.

WingsofWar 10-11-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourFearlessLeader (Post 20606)
I dont understand what the problem with it being a scion is. The only difference would be the badges. If you cant handle driving a "scion" then you need to grow up.

There are lots of problems with an item being sold under different management/brandings. Especially when names are attached to public opinion and stigmas.

In the US, the automotive industry is difficult to work with. We have a very different marketing perspective than the rest of the globe. Which is the reason for the increase in size is most newer vehicles across the spectrum.

FT86 production car is being sold as a Toyota, yet the US might perhaps get a watered down or completely different Scion 86 due to marketing differences.

Also with very limited scion dealers across the nation, its going to be difficult for those who want to get their Scion86 serviced under licences scion technicians. I can think of 1 Scion Dealer within 25 miles of me, but there are 6 Toyota dealers on the way there. Toyota dealers might have to take up some of the responsibility/load of the car especially when honoring warranty.

A-Spike 10-11-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourFearlessLeader (Post 20606)
I dont understand what the problem with it being a scion is. The only difference would be the badges. If you cant handle driving a "scion" then you need to grow up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 20610)
There are lots of problems with an item being sold under different management/brandings. Especially when names are attached to public opinion and stigmas.

In the US, the automotive industry is difficult to work with. We have a very different marketing perspective than the rest of the globe. Which is the reason for the increase in size is most newer vehicles across the spectrum.

FT86 production car is being sold as a Toyota, yet the US might perhaps get a watered down or completely different Scion 86 due to marketing differences.

Also with very limited scion dealers across the nation, its going to be difficult for those who want to get their Scion86 serviced under licences scion technicians. I can think of 1 Scion Dealer within 25 miles of me, but there are 6 Toyota dealers on the way there. Toyota dealers might have to take up some of the responsibility/load of the car especially when honoring warranty.

Yeah, what WingsofWar said, plus that the main purpose of platform sharing and co development is to make money by selling 2 cars with the development costs of one, not the mambo jambo they are trying to. Like I already said, the car should be sold under the Toyota and Subaru brands world wide, not Scion in America, Subaru in Europe and Toyota in Japan. And did you tried to imagine how bad the FT-86 would look with Scion's square shapes. If not, look at the image bellow.:paddle:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...scion_fr-s.jpg

Matador 10-11-2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A-Spike (Post 20612)
Yeah, what WingsofWar said, plus that the main purpose of platform sharing and co development is to make money by selling 2 cars with the development costs of one, not the mambo jambo they are trying to. Like I already said, the car should be sold under the Toyota and Subaru brands world wide, not Scion in America, Subaru in Europe and Toyota in Japan. And did you tried to imagine how bad the FT-86 would look with Scion's square shapes. If not, look at the image bellow.:paddle:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...scion_fr-s.jpg


eewwww ewww ewwwwww my eyeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss :mad0259:

Dark 10-11-2010 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A-Spike (Post 20612)
Yeah, what WingsofWar said, plus that the main purpose of platform sharing and co development is to make money by selling 2 cars with the development costs of one, not the mambo jambo they are trying to. Like I already said, the car should be sold under the Toyota and Subaru brands world wide, not Scion in America, Subaru in Europe and Toyota in Japan. And did you tried to imagine how bad the FT-86 would look with Scion's square shapes. If not, look at the image bellow.:paddle:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...scion_fr-s.jpg

My eyes... kill it with fire.

karasha 10-13-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourFearlessLeader (Post 20606)
I dont understand what the problem with it being a scion is. The only difference would be the badges. If you cant handle driving a "scion" then you need to grow up.

A - You are a scion fanboy/performance modder. So obviously you're going to rep you brand hard. I'm a Toyota/Lexus fangirl, as par to many people on here. So we're going to hope for our brand too. :P

B - ... If I need to grow up, I would be driving a Toyota or Lexus, considering Scion is supposed to an entry level carmaker for younger generations. :)

Sorry, I know I'm being a smart arse, but I couldn't help myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by A-Spike (Post 20612)

http://crooksandliars.com/files/uplo...ymad202ou4.jpg

Matador 10-13-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karasha (Post 20774)
A - You are a scion fanboy/performance modder. So obviously you're going to rep you brand hard. I'm a Toyota/Lexus fangirl, as par to many people on here. So we're going to hope for our brand too. :P

B - ... If I need to grow up, I would be driving a Toyota or Lexus, considering Scion is supposed to an entry level carmaker for younger generations. :)

Sorry, I know I'm being a smart arse, but I couldn't help myself.



http://crooksandliars.com/files/uplo...ymad202ou4.jpg


Do I detect the presence of vagina?

:party0030:

karasha 10-13-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 20782)
Do I detect the presence of vagina?

:party0030:

Yup, your detection is correct. Fellow lady modder in here. Hi ya'll!

I can't help to ask, is your sn in reference to a Matador Red Mica IS? Because that's the color of my IS350 :)

Franisco 10-13-2010 11:12 PM

Ruh-roh, there's some love in the forum..

Matador 10-13-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karasha (Post 20796)
Yup, your detection is correct. Fellow lady modder in here. Hi ya'll!

I can't help to ask, is your sn in reference to a Matador Red Mica IS? Because that's the color of my IS350 :)

Well how **you** doin? :bellyroll: lol

But, no. The older IS didn't come in MRM.

Snaps 10-13-2010 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 20804)
Well how **you** doin? :bellyroll: lol

But, no. The older IS didn't come in MRM.

If you're the same MatadorRacing_F1 on SF.com, I'm surprised you haven't asked for nudes yet, seems to be the general first question for female members when coming from SF. :bellyroll:

S2KtoFT86 10-14-2010 12:16 AM

Lawl, I knew the concept we all fell in love with would be too good to be true.

Matador 10-14-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaps (Post 20808)
If you're the same MatadorRacing_F1 on SF.com, I'm surprised you haven't asked for nudes yet, seems to be the general first question for female members when coming from SF. :bellyroll:

Shhhhh... :bellyroll:

Not trying to bring OT over here. Yet. Don't wanna scare away the females.

DantKR 10-14-2010 12:21 PM

I think you need to try harder...


A LOT harder...

karasha 10-14-2010 05:29 PM

@Matador: Ahh, you have a first gen IS? Cool! :) I love those, great cars. If I wasn't so into this car, I would have played around with my IS300 already.

I guess I will wait around for the next Lexus gens if this turns out to be a disappointment...

Matador 10-14-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 20839)
I think you need to try harder...


A LOT harder...

You have obviously never been to SFOT :slap:

Snaps 10-14-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 20837)
Shhhhh... :bellyroll:

Not trying to bring OT over here. Yet. Don't wanna scare away the females.

Ok, I'll keep it quiet :bellyroll:

This forum will come together eventually. :evil:

nate89 10-15-2010 02:07 AM

Someone's a little :wub: (not sayin who lol)

RRnold 10-15-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A-Spike (Post 20612)
Yeah, what WingsofWar said, plus that the main purpose of platform sharing and co development is to make money by selling 2 cars with the development costs of one, not the mambo jambo they are trying to. Like I already said, the car should be sold under the Toyota and Subaru brands world wide, not Scion in America, Subaru in Europe and Toyota in Japan. And did you tried to imagine how bad the FT-86 would look with Scion's square shapes. If not, look at the image bellow.:paddle:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...scion_fr-s.jpg

Damn that looks like complete shit! :thumbdown:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 20782)
Do I detect the presence of vagina?

:party0030:



Quote:

Originally Posted by karasha (Post 20796)
Yup, your detection is correct. Fellow lady modder in here. Hi ya'll!

I can't help to ask, is your sn in reference to a Matador Red Mica IS? Because that's the color of my IS350 :)

Careful fellas... :bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll:

http://www.daytondui.com/blog/wp-con...a-predator.jpg

Snaps 10-15-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 20880)
You have obviously never been to SFOT :slap:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate89 (Post 20910)
Someone's a little :wub: (not sayin who lol)

Neither has this guy by the sound of it. :D

Midship Runabout 10-15-2010 08:26 PM

Dibs!


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