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Basically zero toe...
So i got an alignment, since i haven't had one done since i bought the car 2 years ago. The front toe .01 and .02 L/R.
The rear is .07 and .1, so toed out. I've read that most autocrossers prefer a toe-in in the rear. My question is is the rear to essentially zero rear toe? or would it be better to zero and possibly get it toed in a bit. Use: street with ~monthly autocrossing. Thanks EDIT: NM figured it out, toed in just a touch, feels better.... |
Find a different alignment shop next time. .01/.02 in the front is a little sloppy, they should be able to hit 0. If you know any local autocrossers they can probably point you in the right direction.
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Toe-in on the rear is good. It gives the car stability under braking.
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Nothing wrong with 0 toe if you can handle it.
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I tried 0 toe on basically stock suspension for my last track weekend. I'm also running slightly more front camber than rear:
Front: -1.4L, -1.5R Rear: -1.0L, -1.4R The balance felt good. I still got some understeer, but at least it's pretty stable on turn-in and trail-braking, and you can provoke the rear under power. |
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Get some more front camber! |
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It's a little hard to get super precise on an alignment rack. It may read at 0.0000" toe, but there is enough play in suspension bushings, etc that you might be good for 0.0x" toe. Same with camber.
Measure with a ruler, mark with chalk, cut with an axe. |
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I also feel a shop that will take the time to get exactly 0 is a shop that takes pride in doing it right, and they're a lot less likely to fail in tightening something properly leading to the alignment staying true for longer. Since we're sharing proverbs...an ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure. :) |
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Or you could set the toe like F1 and NASCAR teams do, with string.
http://i.imgur.com/3WXBmc5.jpg Let's be honest, a second or third significant digit past the decimal isn't so significant... |
oh hell, i thought this was a dead thread, didn't realize people posted. thanks!
So i ran it the other sunday at an autocross event that was on a track. Even with minimal toe-in on the rear, the car felt better than it ever has. Really planted and much less oversteer. Still a little bit of oversteer on the sweepers, but under slight power. Actually thinking about increasing the stiffness of the front sway (20mm whiteline). I've only been autocrossing about a year, so wanted to play around with the settings now that i have a little bit of seat time... |
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