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Hoosier Daddy 11-15-2014 10:29 AM

Brembo Race System?
 
Anyone have details on these?

I've worked with these race calipers before on true racing applications.

They seem, from the two price point I've found, to be considerably cheaper than the GT-R. Why?

See bottom of this list:
http://www.racetechnologies.com/prod...014_Subaru_BRZ

Hoosier Daddy 11-15-2014 10:33 AM

Here is an image of what the assembly looks like.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brembo-Front...item4d1d4b53be

Captain Snooze 11-15-2014 04:37 PM

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I think it kind of weird that according to Brembo their package called "race" isn't good for racing.

Hoosier Daddy 11-15-2014 04:47 PM

That is some what interesting.

After digging a bit it seems these are technically branded as 'Club Racing' upgrades. For instance, these may not then be up to par for PWC, CTSCC or other professional level racing. I can't find the caliper part numbers for any of the kits for any cars, but they sure look like ones offered in the Brembo Motorsports catalogue... Perhaps they aren't from there though.

Fastbrz 11-15-2014 05:35 PM

That and I'm not sure that this car really needs 355mm rotors for a car of this weight.

Hoosier Daddy 11-15-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastbrz (Post 2023700)
That and I'm not sure that this car really needs 355mm rotors for a car of this weight.

14-15" front rotors are pretty standard in GT4/GS and GT3/GTD and all of those cars weigh less than a reasonably weight reduced FT86 - although in near stock config a BRZ would be in a TC class. Yes I know, GT3 cars actually have downforce (over 1200 lb @ 150 mph), generally much more power, with much better tires than are readily available.

I think it's more than feasible to run these sorts of brakes on a fun weekend car that you do track hard that does have sizable upgrades (boost, good springs/shocks, R1 tires, etc). I'm here because that may be what I'm interested in doing...

There just doesn't seem to be much publicly available information on these Club Racing upgrades. Then also what's the point of the GT-R kits if they offer less for the track but cost 2-3x more than a regular GT kit and these Club Sports? All of the above offer 14" rotors with 4 or 6 pot calipers it seems.

CSG Mike 11-15-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy (Post 2023456)
Anyone have details on these?

I've worked with these race calipers before on true racing applications.

They seem, from the two price point I've found, to be considerably cheaper than the GT-R. Why?

See bottom of this list:
http://www.racetechnologies.com/prod...014_Subaru_BRZ

What do you want to know? I am 100% sure we are the only vendor here with firsthand experience with the Brembo systems for the FRS.

CSG Mike 11-15-2014 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastbrz (Post 2023700)
That and I'm not sure that this car really needs 355mm rotors for a car of this weight.

355x32 is what was determined to be the equilibrium point for this car with stock power in a race.

Short hot lapping sessions will not be as hard on the brakes as a race, and street/canyoning (short of something like Pike's Peak) will not be as hard on the brakes either.

As a data point, the AP Racing Endurance kit is *not* enough braking capacity for me to run a 20 lap spring race with street tires on a stock car... How many people here are actually racing?

Hoosier Daddy 11-15-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2023890)
What do you want to know? I am 100% sure we are the only vendor here with firsthand experience with the Brembo systems for the FRS.

For starters the Brembo p/n for the calipers. Thx

Captain Snooze 11-15-2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2023892)
As a data point, the AP Racing Endurance kit is *not* enough braking capacity for me to run a 20 lap spring race with street tires on a stock car...

Ah crap. Thanks for deflating my ego even more :(

CSG Mike 11-16-2014 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy (Post 2023955)
For starters the Brembo p/n for the calipers. Thx

Which ones?

dradernh 11-16-2014 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 2024003)
Ah crap. Thanks for deflating my ego even more :(

Before deciding how you feel about it, don't forget to ask why.

Captain Snooze 11-16-2014 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dradernh (Post 2024028)
Before deciding how you feel about it, don't forget to ask why.

I was only 1/2 serious. That's :( divided by :). I know that some tracks that the CSG guys visit are much faster than my local track. The Sprint kit is more than sufficient for the tracks I visit. BUT even so reading posts like that makes me aware of my own ability, or more specifically, lack there of.
*Goes and looks at some track day results to bolster my ego where I whipped some of the more powerful car's asses*

Hoosier Daddy 11-16-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2024022)
Which ones?

The left and right calipers that are included in the BRZ/FRS Club Racing kit. :D


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