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FRiSson 11-06-2014 12:54 PM

rythmic noise/grind from the back end
 
I hear and feel a mild "chuffing" noise and slight grind that changes with speed of the car.

I have ruled out brakes, since it occurs with or without the brakes on.

I hear it on smooth pavement, otherwise there is too much road and car noise to hear it well. I have not been able to duplicate it with a mechanic in the car.

I have ruled out transmission, since it occurs when the car in neutral and/or the clutch disengaged.

It might be tires, but the low-speed noise and sense of grinding kind of argues against that.

Could it be differential, LSD, bearings???

White64Goat 11-06-2014 02:00 PM

Believe that some owners have had noise from the Limited Slip Diff. and did a fluid change, after that, not sure. I'd try a fluid change first and see if it helps any.

Reaper 11-06-2014 02:10 PM

This car does not have an LSD.

Are you on stock suspension? Is it the driveshaft carrier bearing? When I first lowered it the toe was out enough to make some road noise on my way to get an alignment.

jeffchap 11-06-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 2012815)
This car does not have an LSD.




Exsqueeze me, wot?!?!?


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EOrzn7-Qc&sns=sms"]2013 Scion FR-S | TorsenĀ® Limited Slip Differential Explained - YouTube[/ame]

White64Goat 11-06-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 2012815)
This car does not have an LSD.

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Uh.......yeah it does..............

mav1178 11-06-2014 06:30 PM

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen"]Torsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

kodyo 11-06-2014 06:51 PM

From my experience rebuilding my own diff, I'll try to chip in to the best I can. As far as I could tell on my diff, the diff gearing itself really only made noise under load (so accelerating or engine braking). So I doubt it's the ring/pinion gears. If it was the actual diff, I would think the noise would be more prominent around corners, is this the case? If it were a bearing, it would be more of a whirring noise, is that what you mean by "chuffing"?

If you are up for trying things, I'd replace the diff fluid and see if it changes the noise at all. Inspect the plug as well for shavings. A decent amount of shavings/sludge on the plug is fairly normal if you haven't changed the fluid yet.

Is it more prominent from any particular side? This may indicate axle or wheel bearing issue on that side.

Any mods to the car? Any adjustments to the clutch?

Cal3000 11-06-2014 11:40 PM

I have a strange tin can like rattling noise also. It has progressively got louder and is borderline annoying now. The noise started when I changed my tires. Someone else on this forum heard rattling from their aluminum valve stem being loose that sets in the wheel. Ill go to the tire shop and have them check it out.

Reaper 11-06-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by White64Goat (Post 2012980)
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Uh.......yeah it does..............

Nope. No lsd. Torsen.

Fastbrew 11-06-2014 11:55 PM

Torsen (full name Torsen traction) is a type of limited-slip differential used in automobiles.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EOrzn7-Qc#t=48"]2013 Scion FR-S | TorsenĀ® Limited Slip Differential Explained - YouTube[/ame]

Bobblehead 11-07-2014 12:03 AM

Right. I forgot nobody can be wrong on the internet without being correctly in the most childish way possible. Big red print. Gold star bucko.

To the OP: do you have any sort of suspension mods? The way you describe it, it almost sounds like you're grounding out the car.

On a different note, when the noise occurs, does the car react in any way (slowing down, etc) or does the noise cause the car to vibrate?

Fastbrew 11-07-2014 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead (Post 2013532)
Right. I forgot nobody can be wrong on the internet without being correctly in the most childish way possible. Big red print. Gold star bucko.

To the OP: do you have any sort of suspension mods? The way you describe it, it almost sounds like you're grounding out the car.

On a different note, when the noise occurs, does the car react in any way (slowing down, etc) or does the noise cause the car to vibrate?

He had already been corrected once - I thought a little visual aid might help. It has worked for me and it appears to have worked here. Perhaps I should have just used BOLD - Big Red is kinda like passing double-dog-dare and going right for the triple dog dare - so I acknowledge a slight breach in etiquette but you can't deny the effectiveness.

FRiSson 11-07-2014 04:57 PM

The car is stock the sound is like a rapid chuff chuff chuff sound at 20mph same on straights as on curves

kodyo 11-07-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FRiSson (Post 2014262)
The car is stock the sound is like a rapid chuff chuff chuff sound at 20mph same on straights as on curves

Check your tire tread and see if anything is stuck to the tread, or if the tread is worn down too much. Check that nothing is rubbing on the wheels such as a body panel or piece of road debris. Make sure you have all of the plastic rivets that hold the liners in place. I've had the plastic under panels make a scraping/chuffing noise at speed once some wind can get behind it and make it flop around while missing some of the plastic rivets.


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