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SeanRTR 11-05-2014 02:06 PM

41K+ Miles No issues
 
My FR-S now has 41k miles...and it really doesn't need shit. My Koni shocks make some rattle/clunk like noises at very low speed on very bad roads, but that's to be expected I think.

I've done nothing so far except change the oil. Does anyone else have this kind of milage and what problems (if any) have they run into?

Any reason to change the diff/trans fluid if it's shifting just fine?

I have 41k miles since Feb 2013, and I do not drive the car for 4 months out of the year minimum. The car is run hard in the summer at several autocrosses, in the Solo Nationals. Does this put excess wear on the differential fluid? I'm more concerned the diff is working properly as the transmission is fine.

I have a Cosworth Air filter, and already have a K&N ready to be put in.

I run the Joe Gibbs 5w20 Synthetic every 5k miles, HKS oil filter.

Did a quick search and didn't see anyone post any info for 40K + mile maintenance yet, so figured I'd ask if anything may need attention that I didn't think of.

Car is due for an oil change, should I change it now before I the car sits for 4 months, or let the car sit and change the oil after the winter?

Tt3Sheppard 11-05-2014 03:23 PM

I am about to hit 50,000 miles and I have also not run into any major issues. If you are autocrossing I would definitely recommend you change our your diff and transmission fluid. The diff fluid is so easy to change you might as well to avoid any wear and tear issues down the road.

Vides990 11-05-2014 05:54 PM

Over 41K as well, just been following subaru's maintanence plans. OP, you may want to do the 30k mile service....

Leonardo 11-05-2014 05:55 PM

I am also at 41,000 miles. No problems! A few interior rattles...

I would change all your fluids next spring. Do you store your car inside or out? I wish I had a garage.

SeanRTR 11-05-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 2011854)
I am also at 41,000 miles. No problems! A few interior rattles...

I would change all your fluids next spring. Do you store your car inside or out? I wish I had a garage.

It's outside, but mostly covered parking...still gets partially snowed on with the wind. Just under a car port overhang at a crappy apartment complex.

jflogerzi 11-18-2014 01:05 AM

28,000K here. Getting ready to do the trans and diff fluid. Nothing else but oil changes and a brake fluid swap..

F1point4 11-19-2014 03:06 PM

34500, I have a fully modded car (vortech SC) and regularly HDPE. So far going well.

Some small things I had to address or will address:
1) Coil pack started going out so I replaced all spark plugs and coil packs
2) Rear passenger OEM Strut is leaking so I need a new set of those (I have RCE Yellow Springs)
3) I have leaks in all the CV Boots on both half shafts. Need to fix that
4) My OEM battery died long long ago; bad cell. Replaced with Diehard Platinum
5) I have a small oil seep in the timing chain cover on the driver side.
6) My belt is squeaking now

gravitylover 11-19-2014 11:44 PM

^^ How tough is it to change the plugs? I've seen some people say it can't be done by a shadetree mechanic in his driveway.

2point0 11-20-2014 01:37 PM

Next big maintenance is 60k. I'm just a few hundred miles shy of that myself. The dealer wants $675 for it, screw that! I already changed trans & diff oils, and just changed motor oil as well.

I also have a set of StopTech pads, some SS lines and new brake fluid sitting in my garage waiting for the day my stock pads even start to squeak. I don't think I've ever had pads last this long, but I guess that's what happens when they source brakes from cars that are at like 700 lbs. heavier.

No way I'm going to pay the dealer that much to check some fluids and full a few zerk fittings.

Complaint-wise, I've been noticing the rear shelf buzz more than usual, but I've also had the rear seat down for much longer than normal. Just too lazy to put it back up, maybe it helps hold the shelf cover in place. I've also had the HPFP replaced twice, really didn't make a difference either time, so I gave up on that "issue".

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Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 2028702)
^^ How tough is it to change the plugs? I've seen some people say it can't be done by a shadetree mechanic in his driveway.

If it's anything like previous Subarus...it really sucks if you have anything larger than a child's hands. I have a buddy with really skinny appendages and he has no issues doing this on his GD WRX. For me, it was a PITA and I broke two of the spark plug connectors on the harness and had to tape them to the valve cover afterwards (also on a GD). I'm also 6'4" and about 225#, so your mileage may vary.

I recommend reading all the DIYs carefully, then eyeballing it to see if it'll work out for you and your meat hooks. I will probably pay my skinny friend to do this for me when the time comes.

BRZnut 11-20-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 2029319)
Next big maintenance is 60k. I'm just a few hundred miles shy of that myself. The dealer wants $675 for it, screw that! I already changed trans & diff oils, and just changed motor oil as well.

I also have a set of StopTech pads, some SS lines and new brake fluid sitting in my garage waiting for the day my stock pads even start to squeak. I don't think I've ever had pads last this long, but I guess that's what happens when they source brakes from cars that are at like 700 lbs. heavier.

No way I'm going to pay the dealer that much to check some fluids and full a few zerk fittings.

Complaint-wise, I've been noticing the rear shelf buzz more than usual, but I've also had the rear seat down for much longer than normal. Just too lazy to put it back up, maybe it helps hold the shelf cover in place. I've also had the HPFP replaced twice, really didn't make a difference either time, so I gave up on that "issue".


If it's anything like previous Subarus...it really sucks if you have anything larger than a child's hands. I have a buddy with really skinny appendages and he has no issues doing this on his GD WRX. For me, it was a PITA and I broke two of the spark plug connectors on the harness and had to tape them to the valve cover afterwards (also on a GD). I'm also 6'4" and about 225#, so your mileage may vary.

I recommend reading all the DIYs carefully, then eyeballing it to see if it'll work out for you and your meat hooks. I will probably pay my skinny friend to do this for me when the time comes.



Isn't it time to change the plugs at 60K? Which officially requires lifting the engine? Maybe that is why the dealer is looking for $675. Still a lot of money.

2point0 11-21-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BRZnut (Post 2030099)
Isn't it time to change the plugs at 60K? Which officially requires lifting the engine? Maybe that is why the dealer is looking for $675. Still a lot of money.

Yeah, good call. Forgot that was a 60k thing...damnit.

Dadhawk 11-21-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZnut (Post 2030099)
Isn't it time to change the plugs at 60K? Which officially requires lifting the engine? Maybe that is why the dealer is looking for $675. Still a lot of money.

Actually given that the engine has to be lifted, I'm surprised its not more. Also, interesting that this happens just as the drivetrain warranty runs out.

finch1750 12-11-2014 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 2030455)
Yeah, good call. Forgot that was a 60k thing...damnit.

If you haven't done this already try your luck with trusted shops that work on our cars/Subarus. I am getting mine done and was quoted only 1.5hrs labor for the spark plugs (I did the engine and diff oil myself already)

Edit: I should also note the plugs themselves are about $25 a piece so even then your looking at probably around $250-$300 for plugs

stockysnail 12-21-2014 06:48 PM

At 36k I have a bad cv joint, replaced the sc belt as it was squeaking, changed the diff and trans fluid shortly after buying it, various interior noise (it's not a super luxury car so to be expected), rear endlink bolt (Perrin) disappeared while driving so needed a new one, oem tail lights leak but new thicker gaskets fixed it plus have Tom's now, supercharger needs a little oil every month or two, intercooler hose needed adjustment on the clamp as it was leaking. Aside from that I haven't needed to replace anything except oil. I've had it since August 2012. Trying to get the dealer to replace the cv joint but am putting the rear end back to stock so they will actually look at the car instead of saying your car has too many mods on it. Warranty will be up in August so need to convince them to fix it!

whataboutbob 12-21-2014 10:54 PM

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Boosted since 34.4K. Lots of AutoX runs. Innovate SC w Delicious CARB tune. Oil changes every 3.5K. Auto tranny fluid change at 40K, 60K. Still runs great.
:cheers:

reeves 12-23-2014 01:45 PM

I'm at 57K miles.. my A/C just went out around 56K miles. O well, i blast that thing 2 hours a day most days, except 2-3 months out of the year.

roddy 12-23-2014 10:39 PM

I'm at 65,000 kms (just over 40,000 miles), and have had a few small issues, but nothing that would make me run away. All were either promptly looked after by my dealership, or were so minor, that I just fixed it myself. Both tail lights have been replaced (one early on and one just a few weeks ago) due to condensation. Both window seals were replaced due to folding up as the window closes. The small 1/4 window at the front of the door on the driver's side has been replaced twice because of a seal flaw. The dash pad material was coming unglued just above the center vents, and again, my dealership was quick to look after it. The only mechanical issue I have experienced was a sticky front brake caliper.
I should add that my car was an early build (April '12), and it is my daily driver. I drive it through all kinds of sh!tty weather, and it is standing up well. I change the oil every 5,000 and the trans (manual) and diff every spring and fall (once per year now that I've settled on what fluids I'm using). The brake pads are just about done at this time...might get another 5,000 out of 'em.

2point0 12-23-2014 11:54 PM

On the subject of reliability...

While browsing a store tonight, I was thumbing through a car magazine (can't recall which) with a Forester on the cover. They had some survey of most/least reliable cars. Forester (non-turbo) was one of, if not the top of the small SUV class. BRZ/FR-S took the bottom of the sport car class.

I attribute this to the fact that not so many people are likely to mod a non-turbo Fozzy to the point of blowing up engines. I have to wonder who all they surveyed.

SeanRTR 08-17-2015 07:58 PM

Bump, now approaching 60k, still no issues.....anything I should look into having replaced under warranty? I'm about 100-200 miles way from it. Obviously I know it's time to do Spark plugs....not sure what my plan is on that. Already replaced diff/trans fluid. Anything I'm missing?

Dadhawk 08-17-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanRTR (Post 2360398)
Bump, now approaching 60k, still no issues.....anything I should look into having replaced under warranty? I'm about 100-200 miles way from it. Obviously I know it's time to do Spark plugs....not sure what my plan is on that. Already replaced diff/trans fluid. Anything I'm missing?

If you haven't done it, you could consider having the fuel pump replaced under the tech bulletin.

SeanRTR 08-17-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2360404)
If you haven't done it, you could consider having the fuel pump replaced under the tech bulletin.

Is that really the only problematic thing to worry about? Is there any recall stuff I should go out of my to take the car to the dealer for?

Dadhawk 08-17-2015 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanRTR (Post 2360418)
Is that really the only problematic thing to worry about? Is there any recall stuff I should go out of my to take the car to the dealer for?

There's a thread on here that lists of service items. There have been only two "real" recalls I believe. 1 was for an error in the owner's manual that they sent out a correction for, and the second was for a very limited number of cars sold in the Southeast that may have had an accessory installed with the wrong torque figures. Everything else is a service bulletin I believe.


I really wasn't having a problem with the fuel pump, the bulletin addresses the "crickets" but I never could really determine if mine did or didn't have them. Still a zeroed out fuel pump is better than one with 60,000 miles on it so I had the dealer check it and they found sufficient noise evidence it needed to be replaced under warranty.

rice_classic 08-18-2015 01:29 PM

50k.

I've put on new front pads, changed air filter and cabin filter a few times.

Changed Diff/tranny fluid twice (once after 1000 mile break in and then again at 20k).

Oil change with Amsoil 0w-30 every 7500 miles with oil filter replacement every 3250 miles.

I think I'll do plugs once I'm north of 75k. They're iridium so there's no hurry to change them.

Scenic Driver 08-18-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2361131)
I think I'll do plugs once I'm north of 75k. They're iridium so there's no hurry to change them.

But it's so much fun to change them, why deny yourself the pleasure?

rice_classic 08-18-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scenic Driver (Post 2361439)
But it's so much fun to change them, why deny yourself the pleasure?

I'm a sadist, not a masochist.

BRZnut 08-19-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2361131)
50k.

I've put on new front pads, changed air filter and cabin filter a few times.

Changed Diff/tranny fluid twice (once after 1000 mile break in and then again at 20k).

Oil change with Amsoil 0w-30 every 7500 miles with oil filter replacement every 3250 miles.

I think I'll do plugs once I'm north of 75k. They're iridium so there's no hurry to change them.



I would have thought the Iridium plugs could go 100K miles. So why does Subaru suggest replacing at 60K? Because it's Direct Injection?

Tt3Sheppard 08-19-2015 04:48 PM

Curious to see what the plugs look like but at this point taking them out you might as well replace them. I'm at 61k and have another set ready to replace but I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer.

carbonBLUE 08-21-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 2362788)
Curious to see what the plugs look like but at this point taking them out you might as well replace them. I'm at 61k and have another set ready to replace but I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer.

I'm closing in at 80k I'll do them soon, post pics if i remember

strat61caster 08-22-2015 04:24 PM

40k, followed maintenance booklet for everything except I did the transmission and differential fluid at 30k miles because I drive it hard, I will do it again at 60k miles.

OEM Brake pads still have life because I've been running Carbotechs at the track/autox, brake fluid has been flushed with higher temp fluid to prevent any boiling (I plan on flushing on a yearly basis, bleed as needed). I see no problem doing the spark plugs at 60k because I have no desire to enable any extra buildup from impartial combustion on a DI engine, that will be approximately once every 4+ year annoyance at worst.

One serious mechanical fault: CEL for coil pack (#3 I think?) which was (from inside the car) left side closest to the firewall, replaced of my own volition because speaking to the dealership it would have been 6+ hours of time out of my life vs. $120 and 1 hour out of my life.

fx35s 08-22-2015 06:03 PM

If you haven't changed your trans/diff oil.. you MUST change them..
It's recommended that you change them around 30k.

Totaled! lol

HatchirokuV2.0 08-29-2015 11:54 AM

At 40,900 miles and my FR-S has that same "clunky" noise on very bad roads at low speeds. It can be felt in the steering wheel a hair but mechanically everything is as stout as a bull.

Might be a good idea to do an overall servicing on the transmission/differential. I know Toyota recommends every 30,000 miles/30 months for transmission fluid. And the differential fluid normally is to just be inspected every 7500 miles and change when needed. (i.e. a good idea to be somewhere in the same area as the trans, if not a little more often than the trans.)

2point0 08-29-2015 03:06 PM

Over 75k now and only just recently changed brake pads. Even then, only one pad had started squealing. Can't believe how long those things lasted! I've had new pads, lines and fluid sitting around my garage forever now, just waiting.

I know plugs are due soon, but I want to bribe a friend with skinny hands to do it. I broke two of the connectors on my WRX doing this years ago...PITA.

Also had the TO bearing detonate last month. The clutch wore out and it all went to hell real quick. TO bearing was covered under extendede warranty (as was all labor) but I had to purchase the new clutch/pp/fw so it wasn't cheap, but not as bad as paying for the labor on top! I asked about changing the fluid, since I did it around 30k, they said don't bother yet.

OkieSnuffBox 08-29-2015 03:14 PM

I'd change the fluids now, go drive the car get it nice and hot and park it.

That way nice fresh fluids are coating everything vs the old stuff. The new stuff will still be good come spring.

SeanRTR 08-21-2017 11:26 AM

Update, 105k, still autocrossing like crazy, plan to m make a run in D-Street at solo nationals in a couple of weeks. Checked back to this thread for spark plug intervals, looks like 60k and not 50k, so I got a little bit on that... are fluids (diff and trans) 30k, or 40k? I've changed mine twice, I think it was 40k, and 80k each time.

strat61caster 08-21-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanRTR (Post 2965632)
Update, 105k, still autocrossing like crazy, plan to m make a run in D-Street at solo nationals in a couple of weeks. Checked back to this thread for spark plug intervals, looks like 60k and not 50k, so I got a little bit on that... are fluids (diff and trans) 30k, or 40k? I've changed mine twice, I think it was 40k, and 80k each time.

Manual does not specify to replace the manual transmission/differential fluid. Ever. Just regular inspections (22.5k/7.5k respectively) with a note of "Inspect or replace at specified intervals" presumably they just want to insure that there is still adequate lubricant and there isn't a leak or something.

https://www.toyota.com/owners/resour...uals/fr-s/2013

I've been replacing both at 30k intervals just because.

LudwigMiles 08-21-2017 09:12 PM

Great to see some guys cracking the 6 figure club

ajh88 08-21-2017 10:10 PM

At 75k here and I've only ever done fluids, pads, tires.


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