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Fastbrew 11-04-2014 11:08 PM

Raceseng Reverse Lockout - Disappointed
 
I recently picked up a Raceseng Ashiko in Orange/Mirror and a black Reverse Lockout.

Nice gear - I mean it is very well done. I like the weight on the Ashiko - it's almost too heavy. The mirror orange finish is a nice splash of accent in the car.

I did battle with the reverse lockout and by using the right tool and a good old thumping with a hammer - I did the install in about 15 minutes. Most of that was spent trying to get the friggin jpm coachwork boot back up onto the shifter. Ended up taking off the shifter boot ring and working it up from underneath.

Anyway! I was ready to go. Grabbed my ring to go into reverse and POW there it was. The feeling of sharp aluminum under my fingers.

The culprit? On the stock reverse lockout which is plastic - they have drilled a tiny hole all the way through so you can place the pin in place. You hardly feel this hole under your fingers.

On the Raceseng - they have machined out a channel. Why? No idea. The result = your fingertips are constantly touching this sharp metal and it doesn't feel good. It's like getting teeth during oral.

Why? Why would Raceseng do this? I am really sick of vendors ALMOST getting things right. I love the knob - pure sex. Smooth, feels great in the hand. I touch the reverse lockout ring a lot when I shift. My little finger tends to rest there. It is not only during a pull up to go into reverse that you will run into this rough spot.

Anyway - I am really disappointed that they did not think this through. When I drive, I interact with my car through the steering wheel and the stick. (Plus the pedals but they are usually with my feet :)) My hands want a nice steering wheel and a nice smooth stick. Nothing abrasive.

So - Raceseng - please go back to the drawing board on this and get an engineering change - your product is so high quality - it deserves to feel nice in the hand. For the money - we deserve nothing but the best.

They don't post pictures of the back of this thing for a good reason. I will post a picture when I get a minute.

weederr33 11-05-2014 12:15 AM

I have a red Raceseng reverse lockout and it works perfectly fine. Along with no funky edges or anything

Fastbrew 11-05-2014 12:33 AM

Well - here is the back - look at that rough cutout.

It works fine, it feels like shit.

http://i.imgur.com/8AbRzjW.jpg

They don't show this in any of their photos - do they?

Ultramaroon 11-05-2014 01:07 AM

Uggh. That's awful. At least cover to clip over it. Something...

Fastbrew 11-05-2014 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2010992)
Uggh. That's awful. At least cover to clip over it. Something...

Yep - I emailed them and sent a picture asking if I received some sort of test piece. I will post here when I hear back.

abraxis 11-05-2014 01:27 AM

I'm not surprised. Most of the RaceEng products I've seen keep the engineering to a minimum. Bling bling shiny orange Yo! They could probably get you a cracked pulley or a do nothing replacement for your stock front braces that cost a whole lot for pretty much no benefit.

slicktop 11-05-2014 01:44 AM

Mine has the same thing. I don't like it, but I don't go into reverse so often that it's bothersome.

Fastbrew 11-05-2014 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abraxis (Post 2011014)
I'm not surprised. Most of the RaceEng products I've seen keep the engineering to a minimum. Bling bling shiny orange Yo! They could probably get you a cracked pulley or a do nothing replacement for your stock front braces that cost a whole lot for pretty much no benefit.

No thanks. I think the stock plastic RL is a little cheap feeling and I wanted it to feel better - not worse. Guess I will check out Perrin...

Fastbrew 11-05-2014 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicktop (Post 2011032)
Mine has the same thing. I don't like it, but I don't go into reverse so often that it's bothersome.

I keep finding it even when shifting in 1-5 with my fingers hanging down there. I can see how some people might not even notice it but it really doesn't fit my driving style or expectation of quality. I often shift grabbing the stick like a joystick with my thumb on top as well.

Noz 11-05-2014 04:12 AM

I got the Beatrush one and it works and feels great. They have a small pinhole just like the OEM one.

tennisfreak 11-05-2014 12:29 PM

Send that shit back and get a refund.

You paid good money (way more than its worth IMO) for that piece and it should not have shitty craftsmanship like that.

86-tundra 11-05-2014 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisfreak (Post 2011385)
Send that shit back and get a refund.

You paid good money (way more than its worth IMO) for that piece and it should not have shitty craftsmanship like that.

I have the same on mine, but rarely touch it. I would hardly consider it "shitty craftsmanship" - raceseng produces high quality stuff. It is just an oversight by them

calmtigers 11-05-2014 01:13 PM

Could you take a picture further back? I'm interested in seeing the combo you chose.

Ultramaroon 11-05-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevorovert (Post 2011415)
I have the same on mine, but rarely touch it. I would hardly consider it "shitty craftsmanship" - raceseng produces high quality stuff. It is just an oversight by them

It's not shitty craftsmanship. It's not "just" an oversight. It's a glaring oversight that has a direct impact on the usability. It's a ridiculously simple part with a straightforward function. Leaving a raw counterbore with sharp edges would be ok under the hood but this is an ergonomic issue.

fail.


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