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Mr_YUzU_FRS 11-01-2014 12:54 AM

FRS vs Evo?
 
Hey guys, just a question. Just recently bought a new FRS RS 1.0. I was having a discussion with my friend, he owns an Evo. I was telling him how nice the FRS handles, the only weakness is it's under-powered and cheap tires. Would a FRS kick the EVO's butt on the track if it has the same amount of whp and better suspension+wheel tire setup? Let me know what you guys think?

Jaden 11-01-2014 01:02 AM

short answer yes...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_YUzU_FRS (Post 2006512)
Hey guys, just a question. Just recently bought a new FRS RS 1.0. I was having a discussion with my friend, he owns an Evo. I was telling him how nice the FRS handles, the only weakness is it's under-powered and cheap tires. Would a FRS kick the EVO's butt on the track if it has the same amount of whp and better suspension+wheel tire setup? Let me know what you guys think?

The short answer is yes... On some tracks, just stickier tires would do the trick.

The long answer would greatly depend on what has been done to the evo, what kind of track abd how long, in what way has the power been upgraded on the frs to match the evo, etc...

Jaden

campy 11-01-2014 01:05 AM

I think an Evo would typically beat an FRS around a track, stock for stock. But don't forget the evo is a $40k car with FI. If you gave the FRS $15k of mods to match, I think the FRS would win.

Tcoat 11-01-2014 01:12 AM

Dude, please the regular font is just fine.
I am going to be seeing that post in my sleep as I think it is now etched into my retinas.

fatoni 11-01-2014 01:15 AM

Evos are really fast. If you make an frs faster, yes, it will be faster.

Mr_YUzU_FRS 11-01-2014 01:17 AM

sorry about the font. hehe. it was an accident.

Mr_YUzU_FRS 11-01-2014 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 2006530)
Evos are really fast. If you make an frs faster, yes, it will be faster.

Your answer is obvious. Im talking about on the track. Making a car faster is different, there's more to than just power.

Texas BRZ 11-01-2014 01:20 AM

+1 on using the regular font. Also, may want to request to have this thread relocated to the Versus section.

To respond to your question, I suggest you and your friend proceed to take your cars to the track and let us know how it turns out. There are variables which make a difference... Such as driver skill / experience, modifications, etc.

Have fun, and thanks for taking it to the track. You guys will surely have a blast regardless of the results.

glamcem 11-01-2014 01:39 AM

dude, if you are near blind and that font size is the smallest you can read, please don't drive either car and get your eyes checked first :D

speaking of Evo vs FRS, I've owned and modded both ..short answer it all depends on the budget and track, if it's a tight track FRS can even keep up with some bolt ons and good suspension mods, tires, ..etc other than that Evo has the power advantage everywhere..

with the mods on my car I have no problem passing Stage 2 Evos (both Evo X and previous models), YMMV

p12 11-01-2014 06:07 AM

I currently have both cars and think of it like this. The Evo has a higher price of entry (new at least) than the FRS, but a lot of people say with the price difference between the two, you could make a FRS faster than a Evo. But as we all know, modifying often brings more variables such as quality of parts/work and maintenance.

In stock form, the Evo comes turbo charged and with a warranty to back up that performance assuming you don't do anything to it aside from its normal maintenance and no modifications. The modded FRS will lose its warranty support and probably become more unusable for daily driving purposes but that's subjective to some people as some people are more tolerant as to what's daily friendly and in some cases, not legal for the street. But in my opinion, you shouldn't really compare a stock car to a modded car because a Evo with the same amount of money in mods will be even better. So mod for mod, I'd say the Evo is more bang for your buck than a FRS. So stock for stock, I'd like to think the Evo is more capable just because of what you get out of the factory standard.

The driving experience is something a bit different though. Both cars are quite capable as we all know, but I think there comes a time when you want things to just work and be easy. The Evo I think does that very well. Want to go fast, stomp the gas pedal and you'll get pushed back into your seat if your not ready for that surge of boost. Want to take a corner a little faster than you should, turn in and it just does it through its use of clever electronics and drive train. The FRS also corners well, but through use of it's chassis and balance. The FRS as we all know rewards good inputs and good technique. Relatively light weight, decently powered for what it is, good response but I think it's all down to who's driving it and what they prefer.

I saw this on a Nissan Z forum and think it's a pretty accurate statement.
"On an internet forum, no car is better than the one in the one you own. It's a proven fact. Statistics don't lie.

If its cheaper, it doesn't perform as well and is cheaply made

if its more expensive, why would you pay that much? I can turbo mine for $1000

if its the same price, we must comment on something obscure to validate our purchase

by this logic, i will say that the BRZ is not as fast as the Z and isn't as nice."

Having both cars, I can make up obscure comments to validate both cars. Being on a 86 forum, what else are you going to expect other than more comments validating a 86? Go to a Evo forum and you'll just see the other side with Evo owners validating a Evo. It's a pointless argument in all reality. :lol:

fatoni 11-01-2014 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_YUzU_FRS (Post 2006535)
Your answer is obvious. Im talking about on the track. Making a car faster is different, there's more to than just power.

I didn't say more powerful. I said faster. As obvious as my answer was, you don't understand it.

Weasel Soup 11-01-2014 07:56 AM

There should be more posts like @p12 just did in this thread.

Mr_YUzU_FRS 11-01-2014 08:57 AM

to p12
 
Your comments are not very helpful. I'm talking about if the FRS have the same whp as the evo, will it perform better on the track. And not all expensive cars come with better quality. Tell me where I can get a turbo setup for $1000?

dizzario 11-01-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_YUzU_FRS (Post 2006668)
Your comments are not very helpful. I'm talking about if the FRS have the same whp as the evo, will it perform better on the track. And not all expensive cars come with better quality. Tell me where I can get a turbo setup for $1000?

Are you fucking serious? The Evo would STILL have AWD. I don't care what happens when you guys play Forza. The Mitsubishi wins. You're all so out of touch with reality. I just can't fathom how anyone here functions in real, everyday life.


EDIT: Just read the whole thread. No one mentions the Evo's AWD. I can't even believe I'm posting in here. Fuck.


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