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-   -   Anyone want some brand new stock Series.Blue wheels? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76919)

IntelSilver 07-31-2015 01:16 AM

Still have them? I'm interested :)

REAV3R 07-31-2015 03:50 AM

They're crap. You should sell them. Immediately. To me.

Seriously though, what everyone else has been saying; they are "bespoke" to the car. You should keep them regardless. Hell, have you thought about plasti-dip? It's a non-permanent solution to change the color. I'm not the biggest advocate for the over-zealous use of the product, but it - if done right and proper - can make a significant difference for next to nothing price wise...

extrashaky 07-31-2015 10:24 AM

Surely by now this guy has long since solved his problem.

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Originally Posted by REAV3R (Post 2341561)
they are "bespoke" to the car.

No, they're not. These wheels are made to the same specs as every other set of Series Blue wheels and are therefore by definition not bespoke.

mixedjuice 07-31-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 2006052)
So I've grown to like everything on my car except for the wheels. I just never liked black wheels. I'm thinking I might order some different wheels when I order my snow tires so that they will come mounted and balanced and I can put them on myself.

Is there anyone who might be interested in the OEM black STi wheels that come with the Series.Blue stock? I haven't even had the car two weeks yet so they are brand new!

I do. How much? Also will be shipped to Alaska
9079575278

Stang70Fastback 07-31-2015 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2341690)
Surely by now this guy has long since solved his problem.

Holy thread revival, Batman! You are correct. I solved the problem by owning them long enough that I love them now, lol. MINE!

Poodles 08-01-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2341690)
Surely by now this guy has long since solved his problem.



No, they're not. These wheels are made to the same specs as every other set of Series Blue wheels and are therefore by definition not bespoke.



Actually, by definition, that IS bespoke as it's a limited and an option made for this specific car...


But seriously, this thread needs to die :bellyroll:

extrashaky 08-01-2015 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 2343021)
Actually, by definition, that IS bespoke as it's a limited and an option made for this specific car...

No. That is not the definition of bespoke. Bespeak in this context means to order something made to your specifications, like a tailored shirt made of whole cloth to your measurements. Bespoke is the past tense of that, meaning the resulting product is a made-to-order custom item. You bespeak your requirements to the designer, and the resulting product is bespoke. Did a specific BRZ customer provide the specifications for these rims? I don't think so. There are companies that have "bespoke" divisions where they make custom items to specific customers' specifications. These rims are not that.

If one person had wheels designed and produced specially for his car that nobody else had, that would be bespoke. If Justin Bieber contracted with Enkei to make him a special set of gold plated rims for his chromed Fisker, that would be bespoke. If he had a baseball cap made from whole cloth to fit perfectly while it sits sideways on his head, which he had measured for the purpose, that would be bespoke.

If a company orders 1000 sets of wheels for a limited edition run of a car, that is not bespoke, it's a mass production. It may be a limited edition, but it's still not bespoke, because they were not made to order for a specific car to a specific customer's needs. If Justin Bieber bought a stock Series.Blue, the rims would still not be bespoke, because they would be just like every other set of Series.Blue rims. If Justin Bieber started selling copies of his stupid sideways hats, those copies would not be bespoke, even if the original item was.

I'm going on about this because it's something that irritates me about Scion's bullshit marketing. The "Bespoke" radio in the FR-S is not bespoke at all. It's just another mass produced unit. I suspect the marketing people who came up with that were too stupid to know the difference, and now they have people who don't know any better using the word incorrectly.

Poodles 08-01-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2343056)
No. That is not the definition of bespoke. Bespeak in this context means to order something made to your specifications, like a tailored shirt made of whole cloth to your measurements. Bespoke is the past tense of that, meaning the resulting product is a made-to-order custom item. You bespeak your requirements to the designer, and the resulting product is bespoke. Did a specific BRZ customer provide the specifications for these rims? I don't think so. There are companies that have "bespoke" divisions where they make custom items to specific customers' specifications. These rims are not that.

If one person had wheels designed and produced specially for his car that nobody else had, that would be bespoke. If Justin Bieber contracted with Enkei to make him a special set of gold plated rims for his chromed Fisker, that would be bespoke. If he had a baseball cap made from whole cloth to fit perfectly while it sits sideways on his head, which he had measured for the purpose, that would be bespoke.

If a company orders 1000 sets of wheels for a limited edition run of a car, that is not bespoke, it's a mass production. It may be a limited edition, but it's still not bespoke, because they were not made to order for a specific car to a specific customer's needs. If Justin Bieber bought a stock Series.Blue, the rims would still not be bespoke, because they would be just like every other set of Series.Blue rims. If Justin Bieber started selling copies of his stupid sideways hats, those copies would not be bespoke, even if the original item was.

I'm going on about this because it's something that irritates me about Scion's bullshit marketing. The "Bespoke" radio in the FR-S is not bespoke at all. It's just another mass produced unit. I suspect the marketing people who came up with that were too stupid to know the difference, and now they have people who don't know any better using the word incorrectly.


Still wrong in the scheme of cars. "Bespoke" in the car world means for that exact car and not a parts bin part that's used on other cars. As the wheels are made by Enkei and are NOT available outside of Subaru, they are "bespoke." It's the difference between a real Jaguar and that terrible X-Type bullshit they tried to pass off as one.



Also, bitching about "BeSpoke" which is a trademark is kinda silly...

extrashaky 08-01-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 2343060)
Still wrong in the scheme of cars. "Bespoke" in the car world means for that exact car and not a parts bin part that's used on other cars.

That exact car. Not that car and the 999 others just like it in the limited run. You're using it incorrectly. If you hear other people using it that way, they're using it incorrectly also.

Look at it this way: If you wreck your Series.Blue and destroy a rim, can you order another rim that is already sitting in a warehouse somewhere? Absolutely. Therefore it is not bespoke, because it doesn't have to be recreated specially for your car.

Poodles 08-01-2015 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2343068)
That exact car. Not that car and the 999 others just like it in the limited run. You're using it incorrectly. If you hear other people using it that way, they're using it incorrectly also.

Look at it this way: If you wreck your Series.Blue and destroy a rim, can you order another rim that is already sitting in a warehouse somewhere? Absolutely. Therefore it is not bespoke, because it doesn't have to be recreated specially for your car.



If you're going to argue this point, you're going to have to fight "custom" and "customizing" as well as they're synonyms of "bespoke."


Also, if that's your definition is that, when one of the parts for my old Toyotas need to be replaced and it has to be manufactured by Toyota again because it's no longer "sitting on a shelf," that's apparently bespoke now.


We could go back and forth on this all day, so let's just agree to disagree.

extrashaky 08-01-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 2343074)
If you're going to argue this point, you're going to have to fight "custom" and "customizing" as well as they're synonyms of "bespoke."

Now you're just making shit up.

Look, if you want to sound ignorant, by all means just keep using the word incorrectly. I tried to help.

chaoskaze 08-07-2015 08:57 PM

Anyone want some brand new stock Series.Blue wheels?
 
scratching my head trying figure out what's going on. You can order series blue wheel from Japan anytime you want with 3 different sizes since they are just STI wheels for brz o.O it's like STI wheels for STI/legacy/forester.


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