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newft86 06-04-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dnjshin0bi (Post 239508)
Andrew,

Being one of the people who has pre-ordered the car earlier this year. Just got a quick question, if I already pre-ordered a base GT model and now would like to change and go for the GTS, what are the chances of that happening and will there be a wait ? Would I now be considered a late orderer and wait 2 - 5 months for the car ?

Cheers.

it will depend on what stock your dealer has been allocated in which months. It may be possible to swap straight into a GTS or you may have to wait a few months. We're currently at November delivery for new orders but we have been told we may get a few extra cars though that's yet to be confirmed.

Sorry if that's not much help but the only people who can answer your question properly at this time will be the dealer you preordered from.

newft86 06-04-2012 09:36 AM

By the way guys, i worked out all the onroad pricing for all models based on NSW rego/ctp/stamp duty and our dealer delivery fee, works out cheaper than most if not all onroad prices quoted here so far and if you buy from me you also get thankyou for purchasing freebies :) As well as a customized gift I am having made for all my customers.

Staticfrost 06-04-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0j (Post 239881)
i had no idea our version would come with headlight washers... cool

Legally has to all HID system have to have it also the auto level feature aswell.

So the people you see with ebay fitted HID ballastars are illigal not just to the colour but the fact that they don't auto level when going over crest the fact that the lens can be dirty and screw with the way the light is omited. (sorry late a night on phone for spelling)

newft86 06-04-2012 09:54 AM

know what you mean static' man i'm tired, been fielding 86 inquiries all day and most of the night. BTW my "Onroad NSW pricing" thread was meant more as a discussion about it rather than a revelation about it, just trying to keep people informed.

pr0j 06-04-2012 10:32 AM

thanks for the info guys, I don't know how HID's work so...

russv 06-04-2012 12:48 PM

Wow, are the Aussies happy or what?

JDM-20L 06-04-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 239136)
will you change your reno plan and get the car now? lol


No not just yet mate, House is an appreciating asset! And I have spent a lifetime on depreciating liabilities aka cars :bonk:

Will definitely go down to the dealer when I'm back home though, one drive will give me a good idea of whether I want it or not!! :w00t:

Not that price was ever and issue..

sticky 06-04-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM-20L (Post 240523)
House is an appreciating asset! And I have spent a lifetime on depreciating liabilities aka cars :bonk:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/home-...601-1zlm6.html

Ako 06-04-2012 06:40 PM

I was looking at the images on the press release page (http://www.ausmotive.com/2012/06/04/...press-kit.html) and it looks like the GT is fitted with Yokohama's.

sho 06-04-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by newft86 (Post 239897)
By the way guys, i worked out all the onroad pricing for all models based on NSW rego/ctp/stamp duty and our dealer delivery fee, works out cheaper than most if not all onroad prices quoted here so far and if you buy from me you also get thankyou for purchasing freebies :) As well as a customized gift I am having made for all my customers.

what about the other customers from the same dealership? Will they get the same freebies and gift too? :D:D:D:D

Palmy 06-04-2012 10:11 PM

Just got back from Lander Toyota in Blacktown, NSW, put down a deposit for a GTS in grey, August build, September delivery =)

MrPom 06-04-2012 10:59 PM

Spare wheel
 
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Originally Posted by Gir (Post 239237)

Im not 100% but I think this is the base model,the one with steel wheels black bumpers etc for the Japanese and UK market.I hope it is it looks agricultural like that.

Gir 06-04-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPom (Post 241245)
Im not 100% but I think this is the base model,the one with steel wheels black bumpers etc for the Japanese and UK market.I hope it is it looks agricultural like that.

That's an Aus car, and the spec shows full size spare.

There is a photo going around with a floor mat that covers it, but it still leaves a giant donut in the middle of the boot.

MrPom 06-04-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 239021)
I'm happy for you guys! I can't comprehend the "price ratio" as to why you guys are so excited about, anyone care to attempt to make me understand (comparing to other competitive cars)? I'm from the U.S. !

Hi Miguel we are happy because normally our cars here in Oz are near double than in the US so being $10000 to $15000 more is a huge bonus.In car manufacturers eyes Australia is called Treasure Island they make huge profits here,it sucks but spare a thought for the poor guys in Singapore,Malaysia they have to pay $120000 to $150000 US because of huge gov taxes,ps I ordered my whie brz limited back in feb should be here in July and I still don't know the real price I hope it's the same has the ft86 hope this clears things up,also the average salary here is around $60000 to $90000 a year

Nardi330 06-04-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPom (Post 241291)
ps I ordered my whie brz limited back in feb should be here in July and I still don't know the real price I hope it's the same has the ft86......

you don't want to switch? :D

MrPom 06-05-2012 01:46 AM

Swap
 
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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 241298)
you don't want to switch? :D

Not at the moment I have bought 2 previous WRX from this dealer in Penrith and I've had good service.If the price is way over I would think again

MrPom 06-05-2012 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gir (Post 241270)
That's an Aus car, and the spec shows full size spare.

There is a photo going around with a floor mat that covers it, but it still leaves a giant donut in the middle of the boot.

I just thought the ft86 would be the same as the brz,it's boot is just normal can't see the spare or a doughnut ring,could be that the brz has a space saver.I just googled brz trunk and it came up with pictures on mototrend

Gir 06-05-2012 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPom (Post 241548)
I just thought the ft86 would be the same as the brz,it's boot is just normal can't see the spare or a doughnut ring,could be that the brz has a space saver.I just googled brz trunk and it came up with pictures on mototrend

Every version has a space saver (FR-S, BRZ, GT86, etc), except for the Aus 86.

newft86 06-05-2012 04:05 AM

Hi guys, quick update, i spoke with my stock controller this afternoon and it seems some of the GT stock has freed up a little. I can get a couple of GT's in August for people and possibly a few GTS's as well (obviously the preorders are going to have their vehicles first) but from the looks of things we have been able to get a few more.....love my stock controller!

llama_au 06-05-2012 09:12 AM

Interested, very interested. Lets see if this forum can convince me ;)

Bounce 06-05-2012 09:36 AM

What does everyone think my odds at finance are? I would like to pay at least $20k cash and finance the rest, never financed anything before infact I don't even own a credit card.

Have been saving money away for an M3 but after many months of research I don't think that's the best idea for me right now.

os86 06-05-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bounce (Post 241912)
What does everyone think my odds at finance are? I would like to pay at least $20k cash and finance the rest, never financed anything before infact I don't even own a credit card.

Have been saving money away for an M3 but after many months of research I don't think that's the best idea for me right now.

With finance you have two options

1) Personal Loan through a bank , credit union or small lender. These days you can get a personal loan at 10 - 12 % unsecured which means the lender has no interest in the asset you purchase. Depends on your income levels too, If you have a net monthly income of $2500 per month you shouldnt have any issues.

2) Asset finance
This is the option which most of the car dealers will offer you, usually you need an ABN number as it has benefits. With this option the lender registers an interest in the car and the interest rate is much lower.

I do not know your situation , age , salary etc etc . but these are your options as far as getting the car financed.

hope this helps

Running Free 06-05-2012 09:55 AM

http://s18.postimage.org/enwiof3w9/t...xx6to6_250.gif
Woah! I cannot believe the price!

When you look at what other (read: fun) options you have for that price range, why would you consider anything else?

So excited! :D

Bounce 06-05-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by os86 (Post 241929)

hope this helps


Thank you for taking the time to reply, I have been doing some research but the best course of action will have to just pop into Toyota and have a chat IMO.

llama_au 06-05-2012 10:27 AM

It's a shame they haven't extended the 2.9% finance to the 86 yet otherwise I'd be more keen to jump on one sooner. I suppose the demand is great enough that they won't have trouble shifting any that hit the country (at least over the next year) so it wouldn't be in their best interests to be offering it on such a car.

I might just need to hold off a bit longer.

Bounce - the interest on most Secured/Unsecured Car Loans or Personal Loans is nasty unless you plan to be paying it off quickly, so save as much as you can before comitting to a loan because you will be far better off in the long run.

os86 06-05-2012 10:34 AM

Asset finance -which is secured via your car - roughly 8 - 9 % , these have recently come off. be mindful to ask them about all the hidden charges and stuff, some deals are very sneaky with decent rates but higher admin cost plus establishment fees and stuff.

just take time to read all the stuff before putting pen to the paper

Sparkles 06-05-2012 10:37 AM

Awesome pricing! How good is that!!
I ordered a velocity orange GTS back in March so expecting it early next month
Anyone else going the orange?
Also any official word on the options?
Cheers

llama_au 06-05-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by os86 (Post 241960)
Asset finance -which is secured via your car - roughly 8 - 9 % , these have recently come off. be mindful to ask them about all the hidden charges and stuff, some deals are very sneaky with decent rates but higher admin cost plus establishment fees and stuff.

just take time to read all the stuff before putting pen to the paper


Absolutely. I do have financial commitments bigger than a car though so it's something I can't rush into. That's funny coming from me seeing as the amount I've spent on cars on an average income would make most people have an aneurysm.

All I know is I'd really like one. I can keep dreaming a bit longer. My test drive is booked with my local dealer who is receiving a white GTS Auto later this month. They are trying to squeeze a deposit out of me (I must be the only one who has shown them interest?) but I'm not going to cave.

llama_au 06-05-2012 10:48 AM

PS. I recognise a good number of names in here. Hi guys!

newft86 06-05-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by os86 (Post 241929)
With finance you have two options

1) Personal Loan through a bank , credit union or small lender. These days you can get a personal loan at 10 - 12 % unsecured which means the lender has no interest in the asset you purchase. Depends on your income levels too, If you have a net monthly income of $2500 per month you shouldnt have any issues.

2) Asset finance
This is the option which most of the car dealers will offer you, usually you need an ABN number as it has benefits. With this option the lender registers an interest in the car and the interest rate is much lower.

I do not know your situation , age , salary etc etc . but these are your options as far as getting the car financed.





hope this helps


Without prejudice, I'm not a finance guy and am not giving you professional advice here but i think you'll find the rates will be much higher on an unsecured loan unless you are asset backed (own your own home or are paying one off) or have a triple A credit rating (which most likely you don't have any rating if you haven't borrowed money from a finance company before).

Asset Finance is not the only method of secured car loans from a finance company, bank or dealer financier and not all of them require you to have an ABN. As for tax advantages you would be better off speaking to your accountant about your financials as they are tax specialists but there are several advantages via different types of loans and they may not all suit your needs - some methods may even cost you more money than necessary.

The simplest way of finding out is to contact a credit union, bank, dealer's finance guy/girl and find out which one better suits your needs; although you will most likely find more support will come from the dealer to help you get the loan and in alot of cases the finance company may be more lenient on rate/terms if the loan is being established by a dealer who has their floorplan with them.

P.S. 20k deposit is nothing to be sneezed at, however, you will still need to meet the capacity to pay off the borrowed amount. If anyone would like, please feel free to contact me at any time and i can put you in touch with some awesome finance people - and no, I'm not making any referral fees out of it - just trying to help.

newft86 06-05-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by llama_au (Post 241954)
It's a shame they haven't extended the 2.9% finance to the 86 yet otherwise I'd be more keen to jump on one sooner. I suppose the demand is great enough that they won't have trouble shifting any that hit the country (at least over the next year) so it wouldn't be in their best interests to be offering it on such a car.

I might just need to hold off a bit longer.

Bounce - the interest on most Secured/Unsecured Car Loans or Personal Loans is nasty unless you plan to be paying it off quickly, so save as much as you can before comitting to a loan because you will be far better off in the long run.


They won't be doing the 2.9% comparison rate finance offer on the 86, don't waste your time waiting for nothing - if you want an 86 this year in the colour of your choice get your order in ASAP. By the way, any deal you make for the new car must be stated whether it is subject to finance or not by law. Subject to finance means if finance cannot be obtained then they must give you your deposit back - the actual terms and conditions vary from state to state so as one of the previous posters suggested, read everything - if you don't understand what something in a contract means - ask them or your financial adviser.

Nardi330 06-05-2012 05:54 PM

I always put down subject to finance on my contract even if I'm paying cash!!!

llama_au 06-05-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by newft86 (Post 242172)
They won't be doing the 2.9% comparison rate finance offer on the 86, don't waste your time waiting for nothing - if you want an 86 this year in the colour of your choice get your order in ASAP. By the way, any deal you make for the new car must be stated whether it is subject to finance or not by law. Subject to finance means if finance cannot be obtained then they must give you your deposit back - the actual terms and conditions vary from state to state so as one of the previous posters suggested, read everything - if you don't understand what something in a contract means - ask them or your financial adviser.

Definitely not waiting for Toyota finance, I realised they wouldn't be doing it. I don't need it this year really, I might just wait and save up for a bit longer. I've had plenty of loans in my time so I know what I'd be getting myself into.

Nardi330 06-05-2012 10:58 PM

got confirmation from a sales attending the Sydney training that the boot inlay is standard:

http://www.postimg.com/72000/photo-71563.jpg

still waiting for information about white costing extra or not. i just checked on TMCA website. on the Prius V, pearl costs the same as other metallic paint (roughly $350 over non metallic paint). so i think since only metallic paint is available on the 86, there is a chance pearl white won't cost extra.

davey90 06-06-2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hayden86 (Post 243474)
Hi Guys,

Victorian Toyota Dealer here.

1 Have the following 6 Unsold vehicles available before Mid July. All allocated, in the country with VIN numbers.

Blue GT Manual
White GT Manual
Black GT Auto
Orange GT Auto
White GTS Manual
Grey GTS Auto

First in best dressed.


You can email me new@bloodtoyota.com.au

or

Call on 0414 751 340

Regards

Hayden

oh wow! what a name for a dealership! :D BLOOD Toyota!

you guys aren't vampires right?

Staticfrost 06-06-2012 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 243337)
got confirmation from a sales attending the Sydney training that the boot inlay is standard:

http://www.postimg.com/72000/photo-71563.jpg

still waiting for information about white costing extra or not. i just checked on TMCA website. on the Prius V, pearl costs the same as other metallic paint (roughly $350 over non metallic paint). so i think since only metallic paint is available on the 86, there is a chance pearl white won't cost extra.

Wonder if i can remove the full size put a space saver... and order another boot matt from JP that wont have a huge whole in it...

davey90 06-06-2012 02:37 AM

i swear it was different from the photos a while back when they had a GT-R35 and a 86 side by side with the boot open. and they fit 4 tyres in the boot. i don't remember seeing anything sticking out... o.O

Nardi330 06-06-2012 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by davey90 (Post 243737)
i swear it was different from the photos a while back when they had a GT-R35 and a 86 side by side with the boot open. and they fit 4 tyres in the boot. i don't remember seeing anything sticking out... o.O

JDM doesn't have any spares and USDM has space saver so nothing sticks out.

i have no problem with the donut. i quite like this mat actually, particularly the 86 logo.

Staticfrost 06-06-2012 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 243748)
JDM doesn't have any spares and USDM has space saver so nothing sticks out.

i have no problem with the donut. i quite like this mat actually, particularly the 86 logo.

I like the mat, i just don't like a huge has bulge in the middle of my boot taking up 3/4 of the space :S(with seats up).


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