If I could do it all again I'd forgo the turbo/supporting mods I've added and go with an lsx build.

Why?

I would be able to build an incredibly fast vehicle very reliably. Not to mention the overwhelming availability of parts and existing knowledge that comes with that powerplant.

This is not to say that the lsx route is for everyone however. But i think I'd be much happier with it.

Pure just dropped their LS2 and they're installing a 2JZ. That makes four active 2JZ builds happening right now. Pure will probably be the best to judge as they've had the FA, LS and now a 2J in their car.

I got my scale in but have been so busy that I have not had a chance to weigh it. Ill get it this week. My build had a set back but will be complete by spring in the mean time im making some interior modifications. :-)

I'm waiting to see how the other fellow 2j swap members cars do and I will swap my 2j from my supra into mine. I would love to do a LS swap but since I have an entire 2j setup and trans already it would make sense to do that instead due to money. The LS is sweet but I think if you aren't worried about the weight and whatnot 2j is the way to go if planning for more than 600hp which my setup is 700-800. Now obviously I like straight line fun so that power is crazy if you want to do turns, auto x ect.

Thinking I might make it to the garage today to get that weight I have been so busy with the holidays.

Looks like one of those "Big" "Crazy" "Whatever" 2JZ builds bites the dust on here. You guys know who I'm referring to.

Hey that's what happens when you put too much into it instead of keeping it simple and realistic. :bonk:

I still stand by an lsx build. The 2jz s days are numbered. It's heavy and they aren't making any new ones.

An NA all aluminum LS with a tremec transmission is very close to the weight of a turbo fa20. Will make more torque and will not go through transmissions like toilet paper.

Actually you're completely wrong... He just deleted his thread/ties to ft86club due to ignorant fucs like you and one other thing. Continue being basic and miserable

Wow ! What happened I didnt even hear about it. PM me if need be.

And douche of the month goes too...

That's okay, you can call it whatever you like... I just love when people speak on things they have absolutely no clue about, esp in a poor attempt to diss someone because something may not be "realistic" in his or hers' life ( @PhoKingCool ) but is very in another persons.

I would never choose the 2JZ over a LSx build. I'm interested to see the progress Vorshlag has made on their LSx kit.

I rather be basic than broke lol. You know how much upkeep there is with a car like that? No thanks. I would rather stick to an almost stock car and build my bank account instead. :flame:

Upkeep is nothing more than a stock car... Beauty of turbocharging is that you don't have run high boost all the time.


I know people that daily drive 1000+HP Supras.

^exactly

That kids is confused/ill informed

It's not a "1000 HP supra" until they run that high boost.....

That's kinda the point... I've seen these cars prove it on a dyno and then daily drive.


It's nothing like a 1000HP NA build that requires constant upkeep.

You're always hating on these 2J posts, but nearly all your posts I see from you are in those threads.

He apparently monitors out every personal 2j build thread pretty closely. Funny how not even 30 hrs went by and he brought up thread deletion. Lol

You can get a new 2JZ, MVP motorsports sells everything you need to construct a new 2JZ. And as long as people don't want V8's in their car there will be 2JZ swaps.

Personally i would go for a RB26, more parts available from Japanese tuners and new parts coming out every year!

Straight 6 from a BMW...

lol jk

Yeah... nobody is going to swap those unreliable things! And technically BMW doesn't even make real inline 6 engine's like the RB or JZ, BMW make's slant 6 engines.

Ok finally got off my lazy butt and got you all a weight of the engine minus the tranny. Here are the results.

Is that lbs???
 

Is that lbs or kilos???

Jaden

Lbs.

Aren't you missing some covers on the engine which nets 10+ lbs. Anything else missing?

Its sitting on its side the only things missing are the Intake cover the little one that pops off and the oil pan. It has bin drained I'm sure the residual oil in it makes up for the single cover but its still pretty close. The flywheel is not on it nor is the clutch but tomorrow i can throw all those on a scale and see what it would be with them. :-)

Wow.....how did I miss this post?.....LS1 swapped FRS here....84 pound weight gain....350 whp of N/A power.......front to weight balance exactly the same......was 400 whp of turbo powered before.......not even close comparing it to the V8.....instant torque....power response you would never get except with displacement.....handles the same.....drives the same.....with one exception.....when you touch the gas peddle..........I have 300 miles now behind me driving a V8 powered FRS.

I have about 1500 flawless miles on my LS2 swapped FRS and all I can say is the FA20 can SUCK IT!!!!!

Hownmuch to do a ls swa0p?cause really fuck the fa20

Is it safe to say that you're looking at around $15k for the swap while performing all your own work?

I remember reading a thread where someone reported spending around 8k to do all his own work, fabbing and electrical for a V8 swap AFTER selling his brand new FA20 to offset costs and he already had the engine he was putting in.

I believe this is what you were looking for?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94724

Yeah that's the one.

Is your build posted somewhere? I know you have been some what secretive with your swap or am I missing something, from personal experience I dont believe in going FI with the Fa20 in hindsight now. It takes a questionable reliable engine and puts more variables to make it even more questionable.

What fuel pump system are you running in the saddle tank? And do you have problems with tank scavenging, I went with pumps in each side of tank to insure positive feed no matter what the quantity is at.

I'll just leave this here: fastest FA20 in the world and now is running mid 9s

This is an older run
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWEzKDXeqL8"]Fiebruz FXXX - World's Fastest FA20 FRS - 10.31 @ 138MPH - YouTube[/ame]

Reliability on a road course?....Daily drivability?

@cf6mech

How much did you end up spending on the boosted and built fa20? Was it comparable to the LS cost wise?

My calculations for getting 400whp out of the fa20 put me in the $15k range. That's studid expensive because you'll need a fully forged "bottom" and worked heads.

I'm guesstimating the V8 swap will be in the $15k range too. That's with an LS1 instead of the L33's too. $5k for engine tranny set, $5 for swap kit, $5k for everything else.

I think this is probably the best route to go if you're chasing reliable power with this car. The 4 banger is just so damn expensive to do up and that's not even including the gearbox which is known to eat itself with not even a ton of power.

If Vorschlag or anybody can get all the stock instruments working like factory, abs, everything and no CEL's, I am SOLD!