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SomeoneWhoIsntMe 10-20-2014 09:38 AM

This thread is hilarious. Basically it comes down to personal preference.

Static weight balance and a low moment of inertia are nice things to have, but in the real world, it's not some horrific insurmountable disadvantage to have a less than ideal static weight imbalance and a higher moment.

For an all-out track car you're going to be running aero anyway, so you can tune the dynamic weight balance to overcome 50 or 100lbs extra over the front axles. If moment was that big of a deal, nobody would be able to race any factory Audi or Subaru, ever.

1JZ, 2JZ, LS1, 13B, they're all just starting points, and with any of those motors you can build a perfectly fine car. They all have their positive aspects, and they all have some negatives that you'll have to deal with. I'm going 1JZ, mostly because I like those motors and it's a great value for your dollar.

inertia 10-20-2014 10:30 AM

What is the percentage of people that actually participate 100% of their time road/track/WTAC or whatever? How applicable is the weight balance concern to all of us? With that being said, why bash on other people's projects or style of racing? As far as rollcages, I do not know about you but I rather have safety over aesthetics. Wow this site has a vast amount of envious and despondent debaters!

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 10-20-2014 10:40 AM

^master debaters

Cross 10-20-2014 10:41 AM

If I did road course events constantly and competitively then yes it would be. But my Vette is a weekend cruiser, street show and event, drag event and lastly road course. Yes I enjoy it but not enough to go after being competitive.

I'm driving it more now with the FRS down but I don't really expect that to change much. The FRS or an S2k or maybe Elise would be my choice for full time road course.
I have no desire to molest a car with maybe 53k miles that I can resale for a considerable amount just because the event I do 8% of the time could benefit from it. But again this is my thought process, plus I also dislike the look, my hard dog in the Miata drove that home.

inertia 10-20-2014 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeoneWhoIsntMe (Post 1990654)
^master debaters

:rolleyes: says the kid with a charbroiled chassis and wannabe 2JZ :bellyroll:

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 10-20-2014 11:02 AM

at least I'm working towards adding another datapoint to this discussion instead of purely more rhetoric. that's more than can be said of what, everyone except one or two other people in this thread?

Ryan P 11-17-2014 10:34 PM

If I could do it all again I'd forgo the turbo/supporting mods I've added and go with an lsx build.

hmong337 11-17-2014 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan P (Post 2025873)
If I could do it all again I'd forgo the turbo/supporting mods I've added and go with an lsx build.

Why?

Ryan P 11-17-2014 11:06 PM

I would be able to build an incredibly fast vehicle very reliably. Not to mention the overwhelming availability of parts and existing knowledge that comes with that powerplant.

This is not to say that the lsx route is for everyone however. But i think I'd be much happier with it.

slicktop 11-18-2014 03:14 AM

Pure just dropped their LS2 and they're installing a 2JZ. That makes four active 2JZ builds happening right now. Pure will probably be the best to judge as they've had the FA, LS and now a 2J in their car.

C130NAV 11-18-2014 07:53 AM

I got my scale in but have been so busy that I have not had a chance to weigh it. Ill get it this week. My build had a set back but will be complete by spring in the mean time im making some interior modifications. :-)

Black86 11-25-2014 12:18 AM

I'm waiting to see how the other fellow 2j swap members cars do and I will swap my 2j from my supra into mine. I would love to do a LS swap but since I have an entire 2j setup and trans already it would make sense to do that instead due to money. The LS is sweet but I think if you aren't worried about the weight and whatnot 2j is the way to go if planning for more than 600hp which my setup is 700-800. Now obviously I like straight line fun so that power is crazy if you want to do turns, auto x ect.

C130NAV 11-25-2014 09:19 AM

Thinking I might make it to the garage today to get that weight I have been so busy with the holidays.

PhoKingCool 11-25-2014 08:46 PM

Looks like one of those "Big" "Crazy" "Whatever" 2JZ builds bites the dust on here. You guys know who I'm referring to.

Hey that's what happens when you put too much into it instead of keeping it simple and realistic. :bonk:


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