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luelanski 10-07-2014 06:14 PM

The Brz can overtake cars?

carma143 10-07-2014 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by luelanski (Post 1975478)
The Brz can overtake cars?

Ha ha. But ya. if my dad's 3100 lbs 110 bhp car can overtake, the BRZ most cetainly can.

ashtray 10-08-2014 02:26 AM

Did you downshift and dump the clutch?

Ultramaroon 10-08-2014 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 1975286)
wtf it was 6 am no one in sight either direction, just mr stinky

poor mr stinky

nikitopo 10-08-2014 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Roarke (Post 1974923)
Hey guys,

I had some strange behaviour which never happened to me with other cars. I would like to explain it, but my English is far from perfect, so hope Ill do it right ;)

First,m I know that it was my fault and it was a dangerous maneuver ;( So please dont punish me, my wife already did it ;)

Basically, I was driving on highway around 140Km and a little bit in hurry ( i know, whole accident was because of this) .. So I was in left lane, behind slow car and very close (because he didnt want to return to right lane).

When he began return back to right lane, I begin accelerate (slightly). When I was on the side with him (something like my nose in his center) , my car oversteer to the left. I was really surprised, crash barrier was so close, car oversteered to the left, my wife screaming. So I stopped accelerate and brake a little bit.. and luckily get grip again. Anyway, nothing what I would like to experience again.

I assume, that because I accelerated, I had more grip on rear wheel and wind from second car break grip for front wheel and car begin skid...

do you have any experience with something like this ?

Best
Roarke

Small bumps or road imperfections can cause this behaviour. I don't believe BRZ's strong point is on the highway. The suspension is too stiff and sometimes causes the car to bounce even in relative medium speeds (i.e., 140 km/h).

I have a STI suspension in my forester and it is way more compliant for highway driving. The car doesn't bounce at all! Overall, I feel much more confident to go with 180+ km/h with my forester than with my BRZ. Of course, forester's suspension is not so stiff.

stonenewt 10-08-2014 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 1976129)
Small bumps or road imperfections can cause this behaviour. I don't believe BRZ's strong point is on the highway. The suspension is too stiff and sometimes causes the car to bounce even in relative medium speeds (i.e., 140 km/h).

Stiff suspension doesn't cause this but over damping, & lack of suspension travel, does. :mad0259:

nikitopo 10-08-2014 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stonenewt (Post 1976135)
Stiff suspension doesn't cause this but over damping, & lack of suspension travel, does. :mad0259:

I was replying to this guy with simple words, because he said his English are not very good. Bouncing is not the most accurate word. If you want to be more accurate, I wanted to say that wheels are losing easier the contact with the road. In some cases, they are losing contact all of them and this resembles a bounce. Fact is that BRZ or its variants are not for highway driving in high speeds. Personally, I feel more unsafe with the BRZ than with my Forester. Of course, in the track it is another story because over there you don't have so many imperfections. Besides, power is limited and you'll hardly manage to go even in a track with more than 170-180 km/h. Now, if this is an issue of the stiffness or because of something else it is another discussion. A lot of people have a definite opinion about stifness and think that it is always good. This is not always the case. There are always trade offs. And don't forget that I'm mentioning my experience with the new BRZ model which has a revised suspension.

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