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Tomek86 09-14-2014 06:27 PM

Debating on which car to buy FRS or EVO 8/9 (NJ)
 
It is what the title says

I saw some threads where people don't regret going from an evo to the frs. I waited out the options for both and this is what I came up with.

If I get the frs I will get one hat is a rebuilt(body damage such as a quarter panel being hit etc), its gonna be difficult to drive during the winter, would have to get a kit for FI(was looking at some kits) I would want a kit capable of 400 hp also a new clutch but would only tune to 350hp or so for now. Also if I get one it would come not abused as finding an evo that is in good mechanical condition and no mods is hard.

If I get the evo its awd and little to no problem in the winter. Can get to 400 hp without worrying so much about the engine blowing up. Its already turbo'ed, has 4 doors.

Love both cars but I need to decide which one to go with(still looking at both)

Any insight is greatly appreciated

raven1231 09-14-2014 07:32 PM

EVO 8/9 : powerful, turbo, easily made faster, awd, less reliable, old, likely beat to hell, boy racer looks, fun to drive

FRS: light, rwd, new, more reliable, good looking, fun to drive, sits lower, feel better connected, has potential

Tomek86 09-14-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 1946554)
EVO 8/9 : powerful, turbo, easily made faster, awd, less reliable, old, likely beat to hell, boy racer looks, fun to drive

FRS: light, rwd, new, more reliable, good looking, fun to drive, sits lower, feel better connected, has potential


How is driving in the winter with the FRS ? Thats a huge concern for me and any opinions for FI ?

And you listed a lot more pros/cons of each which I forgot or didn't bother including, thanks :thumbsup:

zc06_kisstherain 09-15-2014 02:20 PM

with stock tires on twins, forget about it. i couldnt even get out of my drive way.
probably better with winter tires on.

STV3 09-15-2014 02:24 PM

Just get the Evo. If you want power then this isn't the car for you, plus the Evo will achieve it more easily and reliably. Turbo-ing a car that isn't boosted from the factory as a daily driver becomes a huge pain in the ass.

pche 09-15-2014 03:18 PM

EVO

raven1231 09-15-2014 03:32 PM

I had an EVO 8 with 384wheel hp and went to this. I can honestly say I don't regret the decision at all. This however is based on my preference.

PrimeMotoring 09-15-2014 03:39 PM

We have had a string of original owner Evo 8's and 9's here lately for tuning/service and I must say if you have the money to dish out for an unmolested one, it is definitely an incredible ride. But they are older and the interiors are spartan at best. Drive both and see what you prefer. I would only buy one if I could also keep my FRS as well. They would compliment each other so well.

Jive Turkey 09-15-2014 03:54 PM

they are literally two completely different cars, they don't drive the same, they don't handle the same.

so you should ask yourself, do you want a car you can DRIVE or a car that for the most part drives for you. the Evo is a great car, but they are two different realms of car.

i came from and Sti, every bolt on, DO NOT miss the power or the car. brz is much more rewarding to drive, even being underpowered.

if all you want to do is claim a HP number, or go fast straight, do not buy a twin.

Tomek86 09-15-2014 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrimeMotoring (Post 1947600)
We have had a string of original owner Evo 8's and 9's here lately for tuning/service and I must say if you have the money to dish out for an unmolested one, it is definitely an incredible ride. But they are older and the interiors are spartan at best. Drive both and see what you prefer. I would only buy one if I could also keep my FRS as well. They would compliment each other so well.

Thats the key finding a not abused one. I would get the frs but now somebody posted that going turbo on a N/A car is a PITA. Since you guys are a shop you probably have the most experience with customers putting on a turbo in the frs, how would you describe it ? I don't really care about having 400 hp in the frs(I would like it to be close to that but not too stressed about it :thumbup:) and its easier to get to that mark in the evo. One of the reasons why I started considering and FRS is because its so damn hard to find an un abused evo and its getting on my nerves lol

PrimeMotoring 09-15-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomek86 (Post 1947687)
Thats the key finding a not abused one. I would get the frs but now somebody posted that going turbo on a N/A car is a PITA. Since you guys are a shop you probably have the most experience with customers putting on a turbo in the frs, how would you describe it ? I don't really care about having 400 hp in the frs(I would like it to be close to that but not too stressed about it :thumbup:) and its easier to get to that mark in the evo. One of the reasons why I started considering and FRS is because its so damn hard to find an un abused evo and its getting on my nerves lol

As long as you do not try to cut corners on these cars they can be fantastic when boosted. Also choosing the right tuner is key. People are generally scared because this platform is still new and we are finding the limits but there are turbocharged cars out there that have issues when modified such as WRX/STI's.

STV3 09-15-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomek86 (Post 1947687)
Thats the key finding a not abused one. I would get the frs but now somebody posted that going turbo on a N/A car is a PITA. Since you guys are a shop you probably have the most experience with customers putting on a turbo in the frs, how would you describe it ? I don't really care about having 400 hp in the frs(I would like it to be close to that but not too stressed about it :thumbup:) and its easier to get to that mark in the evo. One of the reasons why I started considering and FRS is because its so damn hard to find an un abused evo and its getting on my nerves lol

I only say that because when the boost from the turbo isn't regulated by the cars ECU, you have to start worrying about things like partial throttle boost, boost creep, having to turn the boost down in the winter time, etc.

I'm not expert by any means. This is just stuff I have dealt with personally and have seen other personal friends deal with.

Parikh1234 09-15-2014 05:42 PM

Get the evo. I own a BRZ and I own two evos (an 9 and a 10). Get the evo for NJ. The BRZ is fantastic in the summer, fall spring. But in the winter, its utterly useless.

Tomek86 09-16-2014 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Parikh1234 (Post 1947799)
Get the evo. I own a BRZ and I own two evos (an 9 and a 10). Get the evo for NJ. The BRZ is fantastic in the summer, fall spring. But in the winter, its utterly useless.

But its extremely difficult to find an good condition evo :thumbdown:

And when it snows here it lasts for max 2 days (usually melts by 3pm the next day after the snow falls), I would run winter tires as well and usually when we get the big snowstorms I don't leave my home


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