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Sideways&Smiling 04-16-2014 11:07 PM

Less body roll and more aggressive styling would do a ton for this car. Would really like to see that happen.

rice_classic 04-16-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 1677505)
Big questions remain, the skyactiv is still a question mark when it comes to performance, the Miata has always used a workhorse engine, nothing terribly exciting, but the reliability was such that owners have been flogging them relentlessly for 25 years now.

I think the SkyActiv engines have proven themselves already as work horses. Mazda's reliability rating and owner satisfaction has been terrific with the new cars and engines.

The second question is the kodo design, Mazda's designs usually elicit two responses as of late: "Ew" or "I could live with that" depending on who you talk to.

I have yet to talk to a person, besides your input here, that doesn't think the new Mazda design is anything other than gorgeous, especially among auto enthusiasts. I think the 6 and 3 are the best looking cars in their class hands down and some of the best looking cars on the road too.

Edit: I'm really optimistic, seems to be the biggest jump in technology the Miata has ever had, glad to hear that there's still optimism of weight loss.

If they really do get the weight down, apply the KODO design and have double A-arms up front with multi-link in the rear it just shows me that they really want my money and I think I'll have to give it to them...



Jesus Christ! Did I just say I'm thinking about buying a Miata?!

gramicci101 04-16-2014 11:24 PM

The single longitudinal trellis brace is interesting. I like the idea of it.

And I don't particularly care for the kodo styling. I almost bought a new mazda3 hatch when I got back from deployment, until I saw the rear end. The front of the car is gorgeous. The rear has lost all its distinctive personality from the previous design and is about as vague and amorphous as you can get. I bought a motorcycle instead.

Dark 04-17-2014 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 1678095)
If they really do get the weight down, apply the KODO design and have double A-arms up front with multi-link in the rear it just shows me that they really want my money and I think I'll have to give it to them...



Jesus Christ! Did I just say I'm thinking about buying a Miata?!

Most likely trade up my WRX if I can get a good deal on trade.

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strat61caster 04-17-2014 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 1678095)
If they really do get the weight down, apply the KODO design and have double A-arms up front with multi-link in the rear it just shows me that they really want my money and I think I'll have to give it to them...

Jesus Christ! Did I just say I'm thinking about buying a Miata?!

Good to hear they're doing well on the reliability front, but it still has to be a decent engine, they've all been compared to other eco-boxes, not sports cars. Might go drive one in a few weeks though to find out for myself.

I also like the 6 & 3 styling, but not much more than that, anytime I point one out to a friend or girlfriend I get a shrug and "Yeah that looks alright", the "Ew" came from the smiley face that was still out last year, I kind of like it but it's a huge turnoff for others:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4GtXm42yte..._5door---2.jpg

Shame on you for not considering a Miata in the first place!

rice_classic 04-17-2014 01:46 AM

I don't buy smiling cars.

serialk11r 04-17-2014 02:28 AM

The engine probably isn't going to be exciting, otherwise they'd be making a big deal out of it I think. Probably just going to be the 160? hp unit lifted from the rest of the lineup, just like they've always done.

PPX 04-17-2014 04:06 AM

this has me more interested than the 4c or the new vette, just need up the power to weight

Dark 04-17-2014 04:51 AM

If they can get 180hp at 2200lb, this car is going to be a blast. I don't mind soft-top.

Purdue FR-S 04-17-2014 11:13 AM

I'm usually pretty impressed by the Club Edition today ...

I agree that I will be tempted to make a switch when this releases. So glad to see Mazda sticking to their roots and not screwing it up.

Though, with their new Italian partnership it makes me a little nervous.

malave7567 04-17-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 1678262)
Good to hear they're doing well on the reliability front, but it still has to be a decent engine, they've all been compared to other eco-boxes, not sports cars. Might go drive one in a few weeks though to find out for myself.

I also like the 6 & 3 styling, but not much more than that, anytime I point one out to a friend or girlfriend I get a shrug and "Yeah that looks alright", the "Ew" came from the smiley face that was still out last year, I kind of like it but it's a huge turnoff for others:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4GtXm42yte..._5door---2.jpg

Shame on you for not considering a Miata in the first place!

I'm so glad the new Mazda 3 got rid of that smiley face.
http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/m...xt_glory_1.jpg

I much prefer the new styling going on... but Mazdas still have not quite... done it for me since the days of the RX-7. The only one in recent memory I wanted was the R3 version of the RX-8 (the ONLY version of the RX-8 I would buy, I even test drove one).

That said, when the competition gets tougher, everyone wins because of manufacturers stepping their game up.

Allch Chcar 04-17-2014 06:09 PM

Sweet, some results! Is the Fiat/Mazda deal still in effect? Comments are suggesting that the agreement is failing.

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Originally Posted by Dark (Post 1678544)
If they can get 180hp at 2200lb, this car is going to be a blast. I don't mind soft-top.

Don't bother, HP will either stay the same or decrease. The Miata/MX-5 is going to continue be Mazda's fastest car, that is still in production anyway.

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 1677471)
Looks like double wishbone front suspension and multi-link rear, nice! Would like to have seen a more slanted layout for the engine, but Mazda claims this will have the lowest CG height of any Miata, so that may be a moot point.

If Mazda hits all its goals for this car (220 lbs. weight reduction, lower CG height, increased safety), I will be very impressed. And if they released a coupe, I might actually have to buy one.

BTW, there is not going to be a coupe. Of that I am certain.

Atropine 04-17-2014 06:27 PM

The SkyActive fear is that with a compression ratio around 14 to 1...aftermarket FI will not be an option...

Mazda is shooting for MPG...not HP...

Not sure I agree with that philosophy on a sports car...

If the car comes out at 165HP and 2300LBS...that can be great...

175 and 2300 would probably sell me more...

Oh yeah...needs good looking styling too.

My issue is...I have a paid for amazing NA Miata that I am about to upgrade the suspension/wheels/brakes

*actually leaving to order those parts after I type this.

My point...the new Miata has to be better than my "old" Miata for them to earn my money.

Dark 04-17-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 1679858)
Sweet, some results! Is the Fiat/Mazda deal still in effect? Comments are suggesting that the agreement is failing.



Don't bother, HP will either stay the same or decrease. The Miata/MX-5 is going to continue be Mazda's fastest car, that is still in production anyway.



BTW, there is not going to be a coupe. Of that I am certain.

Does the news say SKYACTIVE engine will boost the power and new chassis will shed the weight making the new Miata lighter and more powerful?

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