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rice_classic 04-25-2014 02:30 PM

What is a chick car or a girl-car? Is it a car that appeals more to women or a car that seems "girly" maybe because its of look, stature or performance?

I don't know if it's where I'm from and where I am but when I ask girls what kind of car they want it's rarely any of these because it's rarely a car at all! About 80% of the replies are an SUV, Truck or a Jeep. For some reason several middle aged and older women I talked about a "fun car" expressed a desire to own a muscle car like a Mustang.

I'm not conducting scientific surveys or anything so it's all conjecture and personal experience but nonetheless, it's a tough definition to nail down that's for sure.

When I was in high school the definitive girl car (that girls primarily drove) was the VW Jetta and the Jeep. It might have been a microcosm of my high-school experience but I'd be damned if the whole cheerleading squad didn't all own Jettas and Jeeps. In fact, in my 20's, a friend of mine coined the term "Jetta Girl" arguing that anytime he spotted a Jetta on the road there was good chance it was being driven by a cute girl. Well, he was usually right on the girl part. :D

Entroper 04-27-2014 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1678107)
The single longitudinal trellis brace is interesting. I like the idea of it.

I think you're referring to the power plant frame. That's been on the car since 1989. :)

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Originally Posted by ProjectGT86 (Post 1680113)
Well alfa Romeo is designing the shape so........

To be clear, there are two cars on the same chassis. One will have the Mazda powertrain pictured here, as well as all-Mazda-designed bodywork and interior. The other will have an Alfa powertrain and all-Alfa bodywork and interior. So you can opt for the Alfa if you don't like the looks of the Mazda, assuming of course that the deal still goes through.



I'm rather excited about the news. Mazda announced the 200 lbs lighter figure in their press event at the NY International Auto Show, so it's straight from the horse's mouth. If true, that puts the weight of the ND 500 lbs less than the 86 twins. That's lower than a lot of us were expecting.

ProjectGT86 04-29-2014 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entroper (Post 1701130)
I think you're referring to the power plant frame. That's been on the car since 1989. :)



To be clear, there are two cars on the same chassis. One will have the Mazda powertrain pictured here, as well as all-Mazda-designed bodywork and interior. The other will have an Alfa powertrain and all-Alfa bodywork and interior. So you can opt for the Alfa if you don't like the looks of the Mazda, assuming of course that the deal still goes through.



I'm rather excited about the news. Mazda announced the 200 lbs lighter figure in their press event at the NY International Auto Show, so it's straight from the horse's mouth. If true, that puts the weight of the ND 500 lbs less than the 86 twins. That's lower than a lot of us were expecting.

It is going through I specifically asked a Mazda rep about it he says the deal is still in place

Zaku 04-29-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 1692629)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qQiNjlGtyu...zda-MX-5-2.jpg

I like the blue render more I dunno why it seems more Miata, I thought the white one was a Mazda 3 with it's roof cut off. But hey! Speculations!

vroom4 04-29-2014 05:22 PM

The last one is essentially a BMW z4

strat61caster 04-29-2014 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectGT86 (Post 1705078)
It is going through I specifically asked a Mazda rep about it he says the deal is still in place

You should tell the media because that's fucking new news.

Everything has pointed to the Spider and Miata sharing nothing aside from the platform, what's pictured in the OP's article:

http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00463895_m.jpg

http://blog.caranddriver.com/rendere...omeo-roadster/

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Mazda and Fiat claim the MX-5 and unnamed Alfa Romeo will be powered by different engines and will each wear entirely unique styling.
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...xt-mx-5-miata/

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USA design director Derek Jenkins promises us that the next Mazda MX-5 Miata will look younger, more masculine, and more expensive—and nothing at all like an Alfa Romeo.

ProjectGT86 04-30-2014 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 1705284)
You should tell the media because that's fucking new news.

Everything has pointed to the Spider and Miata sharing nothing aside from the platform, what's pictured in the OP's article:

http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00463895_m.jpg

http://blog.caranddriver.com/rendere...omeo-roadster/



http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...xt-mx-5-miata/

I responded to your comment that "if that deal is still going through" I said the deal is still in place, not that you were wrong about them having different styling and engines, check your fucking condescending attitude at the door and learn not to be an asshole for a second, maybe you will make a friend or something.

strat61caster 04-30-2014 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectGT86 (Post 1706084)
I responded to your comment that "if that deal is still going through" I said the deal is still in place, not that you were wrong about them having different styling and engines, check your fucking condescending attitude at the door and learn not to be an asshole for a second, maybe you will make a friend or something.

I interpreted the comment you posted as "Alfa is designing the shape, a friend at Mazda told me so".

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectGT86 (Post 1705078)
It is going through I specifically asked a Mazda rep about it he says the deal is still in place

Which is as far as everyone else is concerned not true, again if you know something we don't go make headlines. Nobody will believe you otherwise.

Feel free to retract or change that statement but I stand by my douchebaggery Mr. Assertionswithnofacts.

serialk11r 04-30-2014 12:55 AM

White one looks like a cross between a Jag F type and a Mazda 5.

ProjectGT86 04-30-2014 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 1706169)
I interpreted the comment you posted as "Alfa is designing the shape, a friend at Mazda told me so".



Which is as far as everyone else is concerned not true, again if you know something we don't go make headlines. Nobody will believe you otherwise.

Feel free to retract or change that statement but I stand by my douchebaggery Mr. Assertionswithnofacts.

My first comment was speculation, So your response to that I did NOT say you were wrong , nor did I say I have a "friend" at mazda, or even mention anything mazda said in my first comment. you're putting quotation marks on a statement I didn't even make. but you then proceeded to say that "assuming that deal is still going through" (you put quotation marks on things people actually say asshole) And I responded to that that a Mazda rep said that the deal is still going through. I have 3 witnesses with me when the Mazda Rep from the International Auto show who was the same man who introduced the original Miata in 89, Who said they still have a partnership with Alfa Romeo, he did not say that the body or engine was going to be the same but he did say the chassis in both cars will be the same, and that they still had a collaboration with them, THAT is what the mazda rep told me, so youre telling me I have no facts or proof when you cant even re call my statements correctly, such hostility why? To my first comment you could have simply just corrected my speculation by saying no they wont be the same design, but there must be something angry inside you, is it your disappointment every-time you look down to pee in the morning? seriously get some help with your attitude you'll live longer if you're less of an asshole to people

Levi 04-30-2014 01:00 PM

I heard the Alfa Spider was cancelled, only Mazda MX-5 and no Alfa version. There'll be the Alfa 4C Spider. No Alfa FR Spider based on MX-5, because Alfa is developing a new FCA RWD modular platform. This is maybe why we had rumors of Mazda going all RWD, because at Alfa, the Mito will be cancelled, and all other Alfa's will be RWD, and optionally AWD.





...if this time the plan will be held and finally executed, unlike the last decade.

strat61caster 04-30-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi (Post 1706845)
I heard the Alfa Spider was cancelled, only Mazda MX-5 and no Alfa version.

Link to rumor in question:

http://www.autoedizione.com/alfa-rom...015-cancelled/

Boxer486 04-30-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entroper (Post 1701130)
Mazda announced the 200 lbs lighter figure in their press event at the NY International Auto Show, so it's straight from the horse's mouth. If true, that puts the weight of the ND 500 lbs less than the 86 twins. That's lower than a lot of us were expecting.

Not me, they were originally claiming a ridonculous sub 2K like around 1800lbs. I'd be all over that in a heartbeat. We'll see if a few hundred pounds shaved here, doesn't get piled on somewhere else a la the more portly C7 Vette and Mustang. Even the 86 was supposed to be just over 2500lbs.

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Originally Posted by Zaku (Post 1705193)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qQiNjlGtyu...zda-MX-5-2.jpg

I like the blue render more I dunno why it seems more Miata, I thought the white one was a Mazda 3 with it's roof cut off. But hey! Speculations!

Just fyi, that blue render, which is nice, was released on April 1st...

Levi 04-30-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 1706919)

Yeah. We shall get official info in May and see what the plans really are. They are very ambitious, but I hope this time they come to fruition.


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