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Triumphrider 08-30-2014 10:36 PM

OFT maps for FI
 
Just wondering what is out there currently for ots maps for those with fi.? I would really like to support shiv and all the work he had done for us that have purchased the OFT platform. But I'm now looking into a kraftwerks supercharger or an avo turbo. Every tuner around here will only use ecutek even though they both use romraider they have told me ecutek or find someone else to do it.

cnk 08-30-2014 11:12 PM

Only FI supported by OFT at the moment is the SBD turbo setup. Shiv has stated that he's willing to create maps for other FI setups, but he needs someone to stop by the shop so that he can get it on the dyno to create them.

steve99 08-30-2014 11:18 PM

and the OFT 300 vortek supercharger kit see openflash web site, shiv said he will support other kits if somone bring one to the shop:)

cnk 08-30-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 1925067)
and the OFT 300 vortek supercharger kit see openflash web site, shiv said he will support other kits if somone bring one to the shop:)


Thanks. . always forget about the Vortech for some reason. lol

zkv476 09-03-2014 12:37 PM

I ran the OFT300 with a vortech kit, worked very very well. The only reason I'm switching away from OFT soon is I swapped in a smaller pulley, changed injectors, and plan to run flex fuel.

Kids Heart 09-03-2014 03:20 PM

Waiting for OPT tune for Kraftwerks or Jackson Racing SC.

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Originally Posted by zkv476 (Post 1929258)
I ran the OFT300 with a vortech kit, worked very very well. The only reason I'm switching away from OFT soon is I swapped in a smaller pulley, changed injectors, and plan to run flex fuel.

May I ask why you can't have a tuner use the OFT?

Triumphrider 09-03-2014 03:28 PM

I talked to a tuner here... Even though ecutek and oft use romraider... They said they would charge more to use oft. Sounds bull$hit to me, but I can't tune and he can... So I lose.

DJCarbine 09-03-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 1929623)
Waiting for OPT tune for Kraftwerks or Jackson Racing SC.



May I ask why you can't have a tuner use the OFT?



The only reason I see is that he is planning on going flex fuel

Turdinator 09-03-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Triumphrider (Post 1929639)
I talked to a tuner here... Even though ecutek and oft use romraider... They said they would charge more to use oft. Sounds bull$hit to me, but I can't tune and he can... So I lose.

With Ecutek you can try 4 different variations of a map per flash where OFT is one map per flash. So it would take a tuner longer to tune with OFT than Ecutek.

zkv476 09-04-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 1929623)
Waiting for OPT tune for Kraftwerks or Jackson Racing SC.



May I ask why you can't have a tuner use the OFT?

As someone else mentioned yes mainly the FF and the ability to toggle maps. I flash a lot trying things myself and the 7 minutes to flash each time is rather annoying. While it was indeed very easy to use I'm going for a more powerful platform.

steve99 09-04-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zkv476 (Post 1931261)
As someone else mentioned yes mainly the FF and the ability to toggle maps. I flash a lot trying things myself and the 7 minutes to flash each time is rather annoying. While it was indeed very easy to use I'm going for a more powerful platform.

Agreed if you want flex fuel support its likely ecutek is only current option

If you want faster flashing use Tactrix aprox 90 sec for me.

sirsol66 09-04-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 1929623)
Waiting for OPT tune for Kraftwerks or Jackson Racing SC.

Same, the KW kit appeals to me a lot so I'm just waiting for Shiv to release a tune. I find the OFT much easier to use than ECUTEC for those of us who are electronically challenged.

Kids Heart 09-04-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sirsol66 (Post 1931313)
Same, the KW kit appeals to me a lot so I'm just waiting for Shiv to release a tune. I find the OFT much easier to use than ECUTEC for those of us who are electronically challenged.

I like th KW kit too bu JR has a lot less negative comments and issues. Hopefully KW sorts theirs all out by the time I buy.

86pro 09-05-2014 09:40 PM

Its funny when you hear people want openflash over ecutek. If you buy racerom you can tune your own car. Costs more yes and you shouldnt tune your car unless you know what your doing. Leave that for a tuner. Just bare in mind how new openflash is for boost. Just saying

steve99 09-05-2014 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 86pro (Post 1933944)
Its funny when you hear people want openflash over ecutek. If you buy racerom you can tune your own car. Costs more yes and you shouldnt tune your car unless you know what your doing. Leave that for a tuner. Just bare in mind how new openflash is for boost. Just saying

You can tune your own car with OFT using romraider or ecuflash or you can do it with tactrix/ ecuflash

you can stuff it up with any tuning platform

suggest you read the links below on other tuning platforms that are far more open than ecutek and cost less and dont have licence issues. Yes ecutek is a good product and has some nice extra features, but their are others OFT has been arround for ages for other vehicles such as BMW

You should not tune your car with ecutek unless you know what you are doing you can blow it up just as quickly on ecutek :D

Shiv@Openflash 09-05-2014 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86pro (Post 1933944)
Its funny when you hear people want openflash over ecutek. If you buy racerom you can tune your own car. Costs more yes and you shouldnt tune your car unless you know what your doing. Leave that for a tuner. Just bare in mind how new openflash is for boost. Just saying

The phrase about Openflash being "new" for boost makes no sense. The OFT is a tool to reprogram the ECU. What is controlling the engine is your ECU. And the ECU has been supporting boost for a long time. There is nothing "lesser" about an OFT tuned SC/turbo car compared to a Ecutek tuned SC/turbo car. Unless of course, you want true flexfuel capability and then the only option is Ecutek (at this time).

Either way, as steve99 mentioned, you can stuff up your engine using either Ecutek or Openflash. So the bigger concern is starting off the best baseline/OTS map possible and going from there (if necessary). We have probably closed to 100 OFT users running FI kits (ESC, Vortech and SBD turbo) and I'd say that 99% just run our free OTS map and call it a day :)

Triumphrider 09-05-2014 11:22 PM

@Shiv@Openflash do you directly sell the sbd turbo kit?

Shiv@Openflash 09-05-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Triumphrider (Post 1934079)
@Shiv@Openflash do you directly sell the sbd turbo kit?

Yes we do. $3995 with the OFT. Tune file is free and it's killer (265-275whp). I've been wanting to get one on our shop car for a while now.

Triumphrider 09-05-2014 11:24 PM

Could you please pm me some pricing please :)

Shiv@Openflash 09-05-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Triumphrider (Post 1934083)
Could you please pm me some pricing please :)

see my previous post... I just edited it with pricing :)

Triumphrider 09-05-2014 11:32 PM

Lol last question , do you have ots maps for automatic transmission? @Shiv@Openflash

steve99 09-06-2014 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumphrider (Post 1934094)
Lol last question , do you have ots maps for automatic transmission? @Shiv@Openflash

They do for NA tunes cannot see it would be any different for FI tunes just applying the ECU tuning changes to a different base ROM ie a ZA1JD00C man or ZA1JD00D for auto. Their is no changes to the Auto transmission computer its all in the Engine ECU.

Shiv@Openflash 09-06-2014 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumphrider (Post 1934094)
Lol last question , do you have ots maps for automatic transmission? @Shiv@Openflash

The standard mapping changes applied to the AT ROM should work just fine. I believe there is already a couple 6AT cars running our OTS map for the SBD turbo with no issue.

myioz86 10-16-2014 02:33 AM

SHIV I have just sent my factory tune to you guys and am wating for the OFT SPD TURBO kit tune to be sent back. you say i should get around 265rwh to 275 rwh, if i get you guys to do a custom etune for me, what do you think you might be able to squeeze out of it for me.

Thanks john

Fizz 10-16-2014 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by myioz86 (Post 1985893)
SHIV I have just sent my factory tune to you guys and am wating for the OFT SPD TURBO kit tune to be sent back. you say i should get around 265rwh to 275 rwh, if i get you guys to do a custom etune for me, what do you think you might be able to squeeze out of it for me.

Thanks john

E-tuning for FI on this car is something that shouldn't be taken lightly. You need to be aware of the dangers especially if you're chasing hp. If you want to maximise your hp, tune it on the dyno. Period.

Kids Heart 10-16-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vgi (Post 1986052)
FYI the negative comments were primarily due to packaging or mismatched MAP sensor vs what the OTS KW tune was done against.
However, if you go over all the boxes and verify you have all of parts then you should be ok.
The support is great though whether you call in or just send a PM at this forum, so all your issues should be resolved promptly. KW also has occasional deals and the kit can be had for a lot less (about 25% +/-) than JR kit (shipped).

Cool thanks. Now if someone would get Shiv to tune for it.


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