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bobsacamenoh 08-30-2014 02:58 AM

Switching back to 17" Wheels from 18" for acceleration feel?
 
Anyone do this switch? I recently switched from the stock wheels to an 18 x 8.0 wheel with 225/40/18 Pilot Super Sports. The grip is awesome, but the acceleration "feel" is noticeably less quick. The 18"s have only been on for a day and already thinking of switching to a lighter weight 17. Should I just wait out the adaptation period for my senses to get used to it? How long did it take you to get used to the feel or did you never get used to it and just switched back?

Thanks

br@ndon 08-30-2014 03:35 AM

Did you get an alignment?

bobsacamenoh 08-30-2014 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by br@ndon (Post 1924276)
Did you get an alignment?

Not yet. Was waiting for my coil overs to be installed before doing that. Should I get the alignment now or just wait? Might be a couple more weeks until I get the coil overs on. Sorry, I'm a noob to all this.

N1rve 08-30-2014 03:51 AM

Are the 18 inch wheels heavier than the stock 17s? It could just be the extra weight from the wheels.

bobsacamenoh 08-30-2014 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 1924292)
Are the 18 inch wheels heavier than the stock 17s? It could just be the extra weight from the wheels.

The wheels are about 0.25lbs heavier. Not sure about the wheel + tire weight vs. stock tho.

abraxis 08-30-2014 04:59 AM

Even if you kept the weight the same, it would still feel slower going to 18s. You've moved the mass further out.

skyloran 08-30-2014 04:23 PM

alignment will help.

stonenewt 08-30-2014 04:30 PM

My BMW seemed to accelerate slower on PSS than Efficient Grip Performance. This is at odds with a g meeter says that the PSS are oh-so-slightly faster in 1st & 2nd. Just saying.

dradernh 08-30-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by br@ndon (Post 1924276)
Did you get an alignment?

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyloran (Post 1924753)
alignment will help.

Why will this help?

pantdino 08-30-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bobsacamenoh (Post 1924258)
Anyone do this switch? I recently switched from the stock wheels to an 18 x 8.0 wheel with 225/40/18 Pilot Super Sports. The grip is awesome, but the acceleration "feel" is noticeably less quick. The 18"s have only been on for a day and already thinking of switching to a lighter weight 17. Should I just wait out the adaptation period for my senses to get used to it? How long did it take you to get used to the feel or did you never get used to it and just switched back?

Thanks


I have never read anywhere that the weight difference with a +1 change will make a noticeable difference in acceleration or throttle response, despite the increased angular momentum from having more weight further from the axle .


Increased unsprung weight and shorter sidewalls will give you a harsher, possibly less well controlled ride

Wayno 08-30-2014 08:30 PM

Why are people talking about alignments for straight line acceleration, when no suspension has been changed!! :mad0260:

The stock 17's are super heavy pieces of shit. 18's that are even heavier have more weight further away from the wheel center as abraxis stated. Further, both the 16 and 17" oem tires have fairly light sidewalls, so wider tires put even more weight away from the wheel center.

As far as I know even if you have a BBK you don't need 18's except for looks.
Looks =/= performance.

It's good that you noticed immediately that the car is sensitive to rotating mass. The oem suspension is sensitive to unsprung mass too. You have more tire grip which you noticed but likely have less mechanical grip right now. It works better the lower weight your wheels and tires are. That won't matter when you switch to stiff coils though.

stugray 08-30-2014 08:35 PM

If you increase from 17 to 18" tires and keep the same tire aspect ratio, then the circumference of the tire will increase.

A larger tire circumference will mean less available torque at the contact patch than before.
This would result in lower acceleration.

What size tire did you have before and what size tire after?


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