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King Tut 09-17-2014 11:06 AM

Thanks for the invite to the One Lap of Florida Hooked on Driving event. Are you planning on doing it? This is the most information I could find on it:

http://www.hookedondriving.com/event...f_Florida_2015

Are co-drivers not required? It doesn't sound like a racing license is required. The Tire Rack One Lap of America is definitely on my bucket list, but this sounds like a nice warm up to that event. These are the rules for that event:

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/rulesForms/ShowRules.do

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Driver/Crew Eligibility
All participants must be 18 years of age or older and carry a valid driver's license for use on all highways in the continental United States. A minimum of two drivers per car is required. A maximum of four is permitted. All racetrack competitors must submit an outline of his or her driving background. Racing experience or special driving schools (NASA, Bob Bondurant, Skip Barber, Jim Russell, BMW CCA etc.) is required for all on-track competitors. The vehicle, not the crew, is the official entry. Crew members may be subtracted from a vehicle (provided a minimum of two remain on board at all times) but not added. Multi-car teams will not be allowed to swap crews in the event of a retirement, or for any other reason, i.e., the crew that starts the event will stay with the vehicle for the duration.

phastafrican 09-17-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1950116)
Thanks for the invite to the One Lap of Florida Hooked on Driving event. Are you planning on doing it? This is the most information I could find on it:

http://www.hookedondriving.com/event...f_Florida_2015

Are co-drivers not required? It doesn't sound like a racing license is required. The Tire Rack One Lap of America is definitely on my bucket list, but this sounds like a nice warm up to that event. These are the rules for that event:

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/rulesForms/ShowRules.do

Rules haven't been flushed out yet; nonetheless, I'm definitely doing it. Been wanting to do OLoA for a few years now, but struggled to justify the 5k cost and time off without being competitive or having a decent ride. And with a full NASA calendar plus my 4 month baby, doesn't look like I'll be able to do it for a few years, so this is the next best thing.
I've asked for co-driver clarification as well, and how that impacts the cost ($1500 for 4 track days and hotel+food is affordable, especially if it can be split between 2 for a marginal amount more).
Hopefully, it stays close to OLoA rules, since I know those very well. Already lining up event sponsorship applications for up to 50 Florida companies. Would be great to knock off $500 in ad money.

King Tut 09-17-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by phastafrican (Post 1950141)
Rules haven't been flushed out yet; nonetheless, I'm definitely doing it. Been wanting to do OLoA for a few years now, but struggled to justify the 5k cost and time off without being competitive or having a decent ride. And with a full NASA calendar plus my 4 month baby, doesn't look like I'll be able to do it for a few years, so this is the next best thing.
I've asked for co-driver clarification as well, and how that impacts the cost ($1500 for 4 track days and hotel+food is affordable, especially if it can be split between 2 for a marginal amount more).
Hopefully, it stays close to OLoA rules, since I know those very well. Already lining up event sponsorship applications for up to 50 Florida companies. Would be great to knock off $500 in ad money.

What car will you be using? Since it is a rally, that really puts race cars out of the equation. I was gonna make it a goal to have my S2000 ready for the event. Good idea with the sponsorship. That is definitely something I need to get more informed and better at.

phastafrican 09-17-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1950187)
What car will you be using? Since it is a rally, that really puts race cars out of the equation. I was gonna make it a goal to have my S2000 ready for the event. Good idea with the sponsorship. That is definitely something I need to get more informed and better at.

For now, the plan is the FR-S since it's still street legal and I don't have any other options (Durango R/T, and Civic my other options.) Would just need a high-flow cat to avoid potential ticket. Cage was built with driving it to shows in mind so inconspicuous and good head clearance all around.

If co-driver's are allowed, the options are significantly opened up. My wife's godfather swaps supercars every month. Last year was a 458, this year is an MP4-12C. My father-in-law and I would just borrow whatever he's got at the time if he's busy and can't do it with me. One of my racing buddies here in Fernandina works at the Dodge dealership (just for fun...) and did say he wanted to do something like that in a Hellcat as a marketing stunt once they get a few on the lot. If he's not doing it with his wife, I'd totally be jumping in with him to release that 707hp of fun.

But the best option right now would be my car so I can add to it's story book.

Asking for money is harder than discounts, but the key is to begin asking everyone and anyone. Takes a little bit of work to research what you can give them, and tie it into the proposal. ;)

King Tut 09-17-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by phastafrican (Post 1950289)
For now, the plan is the FR-S since it's still street legal and I don't have any other options (Durango R/T, and Civic my other options.) Would just need a high-flow cat to avoid potential ticket. Cage was built with driving it to shows in mind so inconspicuous and good head clearance all around.

If co-driver's are allowed, the options are significantly opened up. My wife's godfather swaps supercars every month. Last year was a 458, this year is an MP4-12C. My father-in-law and I would just borrow whatever he's got at the time if he's busy and can't do it with me. One of my racing buddies here in Fernandina works at the Dodge dealership (just for fun...) and did say he wanted to do something like that in a Hellcat as a marketing stunt once they get a few on the lot. If he's not doing it with his wife, I'd totally be jumping in with him to release that 707hp of fun.

But the best option right now would be my car so I can add to it's story book.

Asking for money is harder than discounts, but the key is to begin asking everyone and anyone. Takes a little bit of work to research what you can give them, and tie it into the proposal. (Toyo RRs in 235/17 cost me 136ea instead of 226ea after some serious "asking" for sponsorship. That one is more valuable to me that any of my free parts so far).

I would worry about bringing an exotic to an event like that. I mean I know we all like watching Chris Harris drift a 12C or a 458 around some track, but what not everyone knows is they probably have two or three of them ready for him and have a whole team of support people there with the cars. I am just not sure I would trust an exotic to make it through some real track days nor be able to push it the way I would want to. With that being said, I sure wouldn't pass up the chance to do it. :lol:

phastafrican 09-17-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1950369)
I would worry about bringing an exotic to an event like that. I mean I know we all like watching Chris Harris drift a 12C or a 458 around some track, but what not everyone knows is they probably have two or three of them ready for him and have a whole team of support people there with the cars. I am just not sure I would trust an exotic to make it through some real track days nor be able to push it the way I would want to. With that being said, I sure wouldn't pass up the chance to do it. :lol:

There's always that risk. It was offered as an option last night when I mentioned it, so I said "hell yea". And knowing him, he'd probably call and have a car ready at the next stop if something were to happen. Florida's easy... I could do it all by myself in the FR-S no problem, so that's what I'm leaning towards... If the car's in one piece between now and then, of course. I'll be bump drafting with E30s at Daytona so it could get ugly. lol

philooo 12-10-2014 09:35 PM

Emmanuel,

can you post picture of your roll cage bars extending into the footwell ?

phastafrican 12-10-2014 10:13 PM

Yea, I'll take a pic tomorrow for you

phastafrican 12-11-2014 08:15 PM

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Emmanuel,

can you post picture of your roll cage bars extending into the footwell ?

Here you go

OkieSnuffBox 12-29-2014 05:40 PM

Just a quick bump since I just got through reading the build thread.


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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1950369)
I would worry about bringing an exotic to an event like that. I mean I know we all like watching Chris Harris drift a 12C or a 458 around some track, but what not everyone knows is they probably have two or three of them ready for him and have a whole team of support people there with the cars. I am just not sure I would trust an exotic to make it through some real track days nor be able to push it the way I would want to. With that being said, I sure wouldn't pass up the chance to do it. :lol:

For OLoA, you have to use the same car, same set of tires (1-2 allowed as spares.


It's not really like TT or HPDE, the cars do two sessions (morning/afternoon) of 3 laps at each track. Fastest time counts, so the guys who can put down a fast lap in the morning have a big advantage as they can start the 500 mile or so drive to the next track.




In reality, exotics don't matter. All the guys in the top class are using INSANELY built GT-Rs, and have software tuners with them and tons of data at each track.


At Hallett, year before last, whichever the fastest GT-R was laying down absolutely insane times (down in the 1:11 range IIRC, whereas a top-level Spec Miata would be in 1:28-29 range). The Vette's/Viper's/Porsche's (even the AWD) just can't get the power down like the GT-R does.

phastafrican 12-29-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 2071596)
Just a quick bump since I just got through reading the build thread.



For OLoA, you have to use the same car, same set of tires (1-2 allowed as spares.


It's not really like TT or HPDE, the cars do two sessions (morning/afternoon) of 3 laps at each track. Fastest time counts, so the guys who can put down a fast lap in the morning have a big advantage as they can start the 500 mile or so drive to the next track.




In reality, exotics don't matter. All the guys in the top class are using INSANELY built GT-Rs, and have software tuners with them and tons of data at each track.


At Hallett, year before last, whichever the fastest GT-R was laying down absolutely insane times (down in the 1:11 range IIRC, whereas a top-level Spec Miata would be in 1:28-29 range). The Vette's/Viper's/Porsche's (even the AWD) just can't get the power down like the GT-R does.

Yea. OLoA's only real surprise is when the Clemson Sports Car Club civic wins at AutoX against the Prepped GTRs and R8s. I don't get the sense that this Rally Lap of FL will be about competition as it is about a 4 day party on the road. I certainly look to being surprised. Having access to an exotic just makes the trip a more interesting story, but I certainly agree with both schools of thought on the notion that it both a risk and not really an advantage.

Thanks for the bump, I'd forgotten about this already Need to update. :thanks:

Ryaquinn 12-30-2014 10:02 AM

Are you in Florida @phastafrican


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phastafrican 12-30-2014 10:03 AM

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Are you in Florida @phastafrican


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Yea. Fernandina Beach, just above Jacksonville.

Ryaquinn 12-30-2014 11:17 AM

Awesome. I'm in Gainesville. Small world


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