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RacerX 08-07-2014 08:16 PM

Subaru & Toyota - Who engineered what?
 
I'm sure this been discussed before, but a search came up dry. :bonk:

I'm curious for more details as to what specific components and systems were engineered by Toyota and what was done by Subaru.

My general understanding is that Subaru builds the twins and engineered most of the mechanical systems and chassis, while Toyota covered the styling, interior, and electronics. So is fair to say that the car is mostly a Subaru product?

Now that the cars are designed and in production is there any more joint engineering going on? Or will both companies develop further innovations to the line independently?

Reaper 08-07-2014 08:20 PM

there are literally hundreds of posts on multiple threads about this. Can we delete this thread?

FirestormFRS 08-07-2014 08:23 PM

Toyota paid for it. Subaru designed it and builds it.

Now please put your club away and leave the poor dead horse alone.

RacerX 08-07-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 1887813)
there are literally hundreds of posts on multiple threads about this. Can we delete this thread?

Linky?

liewyel 08-07-2014 08:45 PM

Search bar in top right. It's over two years since the twins were made... Do you think you're the first person with this question?

RacerX 08-07-2014 08:47 PM

Wow, TLDR I guess.

corry29 08-07-2014 11:30 PM

Zilvia is back!

Bristecom 08-07-2014 11:30 PM

It really is a mix. There are many parts that are only typical for Toyota in this car and also many parts that are only typical for Subaru. It truly is a hybrid joint effort. People like to claim it's just a Subaru that Toyota paid for and directed to be built but that simply isn't true.

noobcake 08-07-2014 11:31 PM

People need to calm down, the guy just had a simple question. Would it have killed you to type up: Toyota Did:, Subaru Did: ..Sometimes i'll search up stuff and it will come up dry as well. This is the bs that drove me off the nasioc forum, douchebags everywhere

AznKirby 08-07-2014 11:45 PM

It's not about being a douchebag, it's about having the common sense to search things up before asking people.
Have a little autonomy; it is the internet, after all.

OICU812 08-08-2014 12:00 AM

Realizing you are new here sure I'll repost some stuff that's been well covered...


Tetsuya Tada (Tada San) from Toyota designed it actually and its well documented. The looks alone do not scream Subaru in any way at all... "2 minute mark and on in first video below)

In end the twins are a hodge podge, Subaru almost was not involved and at last minute committed to their involvement with the motor etc. Esthetically all you see exterior and interior was all designed by Toyota, made at Subarus factory as it had room to do it and Toyota owns a % of Subaru as well, If Toyota engineer had not had the vision this car would not exist. I love both the FRS/BRZ btw...(3 minutes and on in first video below)

Here is an old video but you can see the background on the design the idea and what cars it was based on in Toyotas design.

Interview: ( watch all way through for full entertaining story)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHVhaTNRk8E"]2013 Scion FR-S/Toyota 86 Chief Engineer Tetsuya Tada Interview - YouTube[/ame]


Another Short:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHu4Cl3kH3o"]Toyota GT 86 Chief Engineer interview - Tada-San.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]

Reaper 08-08-2014 12:05 AM

I want to know where the shortened rwd legacy they started with is.

Fish 08-08-2014 02:41 AM

Some more info from @Moto-P regarding development. Probably not what your looking for though.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6919

paulca 08-08-2014 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1888200)
In end the twins are a hodge podge, Subaru almost was not involved and at last minute committed to their involvement with the motor etc. Esthetically all you see exterior and interior was all designed by Toyota, made at Subarus factory as it had room to do it and Toyota owns a % of Subaru as well, If Toyota engineer had not had the vision this car would not exist. I love both the FRS/BRZ btw...(3 minutes and on in first video below)

This is how I understood it. Always annoyed me when people say it's a Subaru. It's a Toyota with a Subaru drive train built by Fuji Heavy Industries.

As I understand it anyway.


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